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    Could Haley be the sole reason ?

    That our once below average Ol all is sudden look like Pro Bowlers the last four games.

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    And yes even Foster and Colon now look good.

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    Didn't players say after Arians left that they only had like 4 different running plays and that there was never any emphasis on practicing them (or something like that)?

    This is exactly what Rooney was talking about when talking about our run game woes under Arians. He wasn't saying that we needed to morph back into a Franco-centric or Bettis-centric offensive of the past...we can still be a modern NFL passing offensive with Ben at the helm, multiple receiving threats at WR, utilizing the TE's in the passing game as more than just blockers, throw the ball to your RB's, and still be able to run the ball with authority when you need to. It's been on display over the last 3 weeks.

    I don't want this to seem like a bitter anti-Arians rant...what he's doing in Indy as a head coach thrown into the fire without warning is nothing short of remarkable (the team who finished with the worst record in football last year would make the playoffs if the season ended today)...it's more of a look at how Haley has improved our offense overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Didn't players say after Arians left that they only had like 4 different running plays and that there was never any emphasis on practicing them (or something like that)?

    This is exactly what Rooney was talking about when talking about our run game woes under Arians. He wasn't saying that we needed to morph back into a Franco-centric or Bettis-centric offensive of the past...we can still be a modern NFL passing offensive with Ben at the helm, multiple receiving threats at WR, utilizing the TE's in the passing game as more than just blockers, throw the ball to your RB's, and still be able to run the ball with authority when you need to. It's been on display over the last 3 weeks.

    I don't want this to seem like a bitter anti-Arians rant...what he's doing in Indy as a head coach thrown into the fire without warning is nothing short of remarkable (the team who finished with the worst record in football last year would make the playoffs if the season ended today)...it's more of a look at how Haley has improved our offense overall.
    Totally agree. It Haley knowing what our strengths and weaknesses are and designing plays that compensate for the weaknesses. Arians never did that. he had the play and he expected players to execute no matter whther they could or not. Haley is making our OL much beeter by not requiring them to hold their blocks as long as they had to with Arians' vertically focused attack. Plus Arians is making everyone better on the team with his calls. Lots of innovation and variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Didn't players say after Arians left that they only had like 4 different running plays and that there was never any emphasis on practicing them (or something like that)?

    This is exactly what Rooney was talking about when talking about our run game woes under Arians. He wasn't saying that we needed to morph back into a Franco-centric or Bettis-centric offensive of the past...we can still be a modern NFL passing offensive with Ben at the helm, multiple receiving threats at WR, utilizing the TE's in the passing game as more than just blockers, throw the ball to your RB's, and still be able to run the ball with authority when you need to. It's been on display over the last 3 weeks.

    I don't want this to seem like a bitter anti-Arians rant...what he's doing in Indy as a head coach thrown into the fire without warning is nothing short of remarkable (the team who finished with the worst record in football last year would make the playoffs if the season ended today)...it's more of a look at how Haley has improved our offense overall.
    Haley has done what he's always done. He designed a system to best take advantage of the talent that he has. The other thing that really impresses me is the way he keeps teams off balance. Against the Giants, we barely saw any WR screens after seeing bunches of them previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    Haley has done what he's always done. He designed a system to best take advantage of the talent that he has. The other thing that really impresses me is the way he keeps teams off balance. Against the Giants, we barely saw any WR screens after seeing bunches of them previously.
    What a novel idea! An OC that gameplans for the opponent by exploiting their weaknesses and emphasizing the teams strength. BA's offenses were a cluster. I saw it when he was in Cleveland. This season he is benefitting from an above average QB in a league that doesn't have a lot of tape on him yet. Indy's wins have come against bottom half defenses this season. Let's see what happens in year 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    What a novel idea! An OC that gameplans for the opponent by exploiting their weaknesses and emphasizing the teams strength. BA's offenses were a cluster. I saw it when he was in Cleveland. This season he is benefitting from an above average QB in a league that doesn't have a lot of tape on him yet. Indy's wins have come against bottom half defenses this season. Let's see what happens in year 2.

    NorthCoast, I'm glad you said the part about, " I saw it when he was in Cleveland. " I did too and he is the only coach that made me aware enough to realize " their OC coach is horrible. " I wanted to vomit when I heard Cowher hired him as our receivers coach. I knew he would spread his stupidity on the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Didn't players say after Arians left that they only had like 4 different running plays and that there was never any emphasis on practicing them (or something like that)?

    This is exactly what Rooney was talking about when talking about our run game woes under Arians. He wasn't saying that we needed to morph back into a Franco-centric or Bettis-centric offensive of the past...we can still be a modern NFL passing offensive with Ben at the helm, multiple receiving threats at WR, utilizing the TE's in the passing game as more than just blockers, throw the ball to your RB's, and still be able to run the ball with authority when you need to. It's been on display over the last 3 weeks.

    I don't want this to seem like a bitter anti-Arians rant...what he's doing in Indy as a head coach thrown into the fire without warning is nothing short of remarkable (the team who finished with the worst record in football last year would make the playoffs if the season ended today)...it's more of a look at how Haley has improved our offense overall.
    Maybe, but Luck is also 2nd in the league on pass attempts. this tells me Arians could care less about a run game even on his new team (not that the Colts have an RBs to speak of) this may work in a dome, but let's see how well in works in GB or NE this December. It has been shown time and again, one dimensional teams can be shut down.

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    Well, after some growing pains, we have had a 100-yard rusher in the last three games. Meanwhile, Ben is having a great year and we seem to be utilizing all of our receiving targets, including Heath.

    It seems obvious that Haley and LeBeau are better coordinators than head guys. Maybe BA is better suited to be a head coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    Well, after some growing pains, we have had a 100-yard rusher in the last three games. Meanwhile, Ben is having a great year and we seem to be utilizing all of our receiving targets, including Heath.

    It seems obvious that Haley and LeBeau are better coordinators than head guys. Maybe BA is better suited to be a head coach?
    If we had two top notch TEs like New England this offense would be unstoppable.
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