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    Steelers and Ravens in the bottom four of cap room

    Steelers 1.1 million under the cap.

    Ravens 1.4 million under the cap.

    No matter what happens the rest of this year, we are going to see big changes. We are predicted to be 30 million dollars over the cap for next year because the cap is going to be flat for 2013. I could see Taylor, Polamalu, Harrison, Hampton gone from this team next year or come back at extremely reduced salary.

    The Ravens will be either franchising or signing Flacco to a long term contract.

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    Can't wait 2-3 years for guys to develop. We have to have bodies on the field now. As you point out, the players of the past decade will be leaving real soon or are already gone.

    1. Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
    2. Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
    3. Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
    4. John Johnson-S, Boston College
    5. James Conner-RB, Pitt
    6. Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
    7. Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State


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    Just salaries

    Ben - 10 million
    Troy - 9 million
    James - 9 million
    Heath - 7 million
    Casey - 5 million
    Woodley - 5 million
    Kiesel - 4.5 million
    Ike - 4 million
    Timmons - 4 million
    Mendy - 3.5 million
    Foote - 3.5 million

    Casey, Kiesel, Ike, Mendy and Foote are taking up 20.5 million in just salary (no idea about prorated signing bonuses). I don't know if Troy, James and Heath have any room to restructure or not, Ben has already restructured once, maybe twice. The off season is going to be interesting to some of the core veterans that have made this team great for the better part of 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Just salaries

    Ben - 10 million
    Troy - 9 million
    James - 9 million
    Heath - 7 million
    Casey - 5 million
    Woodley - 5 million
    Kiesel - 4.5 million
    Ike - 4 million
    Timmons - 4 million
    Mendy - 3.5 million
    Foote - 3.5 million

    Casey, Kiesel, Ike, Mendy and Foote are taking up 20.5 million in just salary (no idea about prorated signing bonuses). I don't know if Troy, James and Heath have any room to restructure or not, Ben has already restructured once, maybe twice. The off season is going to be interesting to some of the core veterans that have made this team great for the better part of 10 years.

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    Foote and Mendy's money will be completely off the books, but what is the cap hit/dead money on the other players is the real question. I know we would save about 5.5 million by cutting James.

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    Now who is earning that pay:

    Ben - 10 million--Yes
    Troy - 9 million--No
    James - 9 million--No
    Heath - 7 million--Yes
    Casey - 5 million--No
    Woodley - 5 million--No
    Kiesel - 4.5 million--Maybe
    Ike - 4 million--Maybe
    Timmons - 4 million--Yes
    Mendy - 3.5 million--Maybe
    Foote - 3.5 million--Yes

    1. Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
    2. Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
    3. Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
    4. John Johnson-S, Boston College
    5. James Conner-RB, Pitt
    6. Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
    7. Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Foote and Mendy's money will be completely off the books, but what is the cap hit/dead money on the other players is the real question. I know we would save about 5.5 million by cutting James.

    If they cut Foote, who do they have? Don't get me wrong I think we have to have better. They will just have to replace that by likely signing a free agent because none of the young guys have demonstated they can step in.

    I think they will try to resign Mendy. The market for RBs, especially ones with ACL surgery, is not usually very robust. This year has shown that you have to have two or even three very good RBs. Redman would probably be the easier RB to replace, but because of that he is cheaper. RB will be interesting to watch.

    Unless harrison turns into a demon the second half I think you have no choice but to let him go or make him play for less. Same for Troy.

    1. Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
    2. Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
    3. Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
    4. John Johnson-S, Boston College
    5. James Conner-RB, Pitt
    6. Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
    7. Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State


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    Cap space this year means nothing next year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    If they cut Foote, who do they have? Don't get me wrong I think we have to have better. They will just have to replace that by likely signing a free agent because none of the young guys have demonstated they can step in.

    I think they will try to resign Mendy. The market for RBs, especially ones with ACL surgery, is not usually very robust. This year has shown that you have to have two or even three very good RBs. Redman would probably be the easier RB to replace, but because of that he is cheaper. RB will be interesting to watch.

    Unless harrison turns into a demon the second half I think you have no choice but to let him go or make him play for less. Same for Troy.
    I agree with you about Foote. I don't think he is a cut. He is a solid player in the middle for us and he isn't that expensive for a starting linebacker. I hate to say it but Jimmy Hate is probably in for a big pay cut ... The Diesel also. Troy should also take a cut but I don't think they will ask him to do that.

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    Foote will be a free agent after this season (so will Mendenhall and Hampton).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Cap space this year means nothing next year...

    Really? I didn't notice that....except for the fact that I discussed the cap next year as well dumb ass.

    We are predicted to be 30 million dollars over the cap for next year because the cap is going to be flat for 2013.

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