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    What was Tomlin thinking?!?!

    by not kicking the FG on 3rd down? That was freakin' stupid.

    If it was a bad snap, we would have been hosed. I can't believe Tomlin ran the ball on 3rd down. For what? To gain another 2 yards and risk a fumble? No excuse for that poor coaching decision. I thought that was coaching 101. If that was coaching 101 then Tomlin failed miserably.

    You just can't expect to be a contender and make poor decisions like that and... the penalties.. that is just a sign of a undisciplined team.

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    Well if you cant execute a short fg then you deserve to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopplayn View Post
    Well if you cant execute a short fg then you deserve to lose.
    No... things happens. The weather was crappy, a bad snap, whatever...

    Not kicking on 3rd down was incredibly stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    by not kicking the FG on 3rd down? That was freakin' stupid.

    If it was a bad snap, we would have been hosed. I can't believe Tomlin ran the ball on 3rd down. For what? To gain another 2 yards and risk a fumble? No excuse for that poor coaching decision. I thought that was coaching 101. If that was coaching 101 then Tomlin failed miserably.

    You just can't expect to be a contender and make poor decisions like that and... the penalties.. that is just a sign of a undisciplined team.
    I agree with your point about when to snap, but there's something to be said for the run and giving Suisham every extra yard possible ... he hasn't exactly proven himself to be Mr. Dependable, and if we can't trust our team to execute a handoff and not get hit for a loss when the chips are on the line, we're not going anywhere this post-season anyway.

    A little off topic - though only 30 yards or so, that kick WAS a high pressure kick ... hopefully it'll give him the cojones when he has to win us a game in bad weather with a 55 yard kick later this year.

    Back to Tomlin - I think we have enough data on Tomlin to know what where his weaknesses are (clock management, challenges, etc.), and what his mean that he will regress to is. Kind of like Ben - more like Farve than Brady, he is who he is.

    But wait ... Ben is getting LOTS better this year, going through progressions, dumping off pretty quickly instead of holding on to the ball long enough to take a sack-fumble. So, maybe Tomlin will get noticeably better too! I think he should HIRE better people in the booth about when to challenge, and some smart dude whose only job is to watch the clock.

    I agree about the discipline though - his ability to control the team has always been trumpeted as his biggest strength, but now I'm wondering if we're beginning to see cracks in that ... see my rant in the post titled "Pouncey's snaps ..." for more on that.


    We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

    HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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    Challenges come from guys in the booth (steeler coaches). You guys say Tomlin cant control the team. Really? Tomlin is the 2nd coach that players want to play for in the NFL. So I'm sure you bloggers know better than the actual guys playing the games. You guys ALL got on Arians when he was here. What is he doing now? You were wrong about him and you are wrong about Tomlin. Tomlin went 3-1 without his franchise Qb. How did the Colts do without theirs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopplayn View Post
    Challenges come from guys in the booth (steeler coaches). You guys say Tomlin cant control the team. Really? Tomlin is the 2nd coach that players want to play for in the NFL. So I'm sure you bloggers know better than the actual guys playing the games. You guys ALL got on Arians when he was here. What is he doing now? You were wrong about him and you are wrong about Tomlin. Tomlin went 3-1 without his franchise Qb. How did the Colts do without theirs?
    Because Tomlin is buddy buddy with his players. Thats why guys want to play for him. Is it not that obvious?

    Sometimes the best coaches and the best managers are not the "cool" dudes. You don't have to be cool to be a good coach and being "cool" or "liked" by your players does not make you a good coach either.

    I think Tomlin walks that fine line of almost being to buddy buddy with his players. You need to have that clear separation no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    Because Tomlin is buddy buddy with his players. Thats why guys want to play for him. Is it not that obvious?

    Sometimes the best coaches and the best managers are not the "cool" dudes. You don't have to be cool to be a good coach and being "cool" or "liked" by your players does not make you a good coach either.

    I think Tomlin walks that fine line of almost being to buddy buddy with his players. You need to have that clear separation no matter what.
    I don't think that Tomlin is too buddy buddy with his players. When that happens, players like you but don't respect you. In Tomlin's case, the players seem to both like him as well as respect him.

    I liked the little "Sounds of the Game" segment (or whatever they call it) during halftime of MNF last night that showed Tomlin greeting players when they came into the locker room after the game, and when Keisel walked in with his kid, Tomlin commented that the kid was lucky to inherit looks from his mother. Little jabs like that make it seem more like a family than just a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    Because Tomlin is buddy buddy with his players. Thats why guys want to play for him. Is it not that obvious?

    Sometimes the best coaches and the best managers are not the "cool" dudes. You don't have to be cool to be a good coach and being "cool" or "liked" by your players does not make you a good coach either.

    I think Tomlin walks that fine line of almost being to buddy buddy with his players. You need to have that clear separation no matter what.
    I.e. Tom Coughlin, end of story

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    I.e. Tom Coughlin, end of story
    It's been pretty well publicized that Coughlin lightened up for the Giants...

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...used_kurt.html

    It's a pretty good read...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    It's been pretty well publicized that Coughlin lightened up for the Giants...

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...used_kurt.html

    It's a pretty good read...

    The team was tuning him out before he lightened up. 5 minutes early?

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