Time to move on.

**SS Laser** · 10-08-2012, 04:06 PM

In a way it is time to move on. Troy is a great player still but is fast becoming old. It is time for the steelers D to relearn how to play winning football without Troy. Which should help ease some of the pain when he does not get resigned or hangs it up himself. They will never replace Troy. So it is time to figure out if the face of this defence can be the ILB's or maybe even Dline. Can Spence and Timmons be special? Or will it take another 1st or 2nd rd ILB and a rotation of players to be special. I still have high hopes that the Dline could be great. I think that is/was the idea with the high draft picks. The next 2 or 3 years will be interesting with the steelers D. Heck the Ravens are in the same trouble with Reed and Ray.

**NW Steeler** · 10-08-2012, 04:32 PM

Well the future SS is not on the current roster, so all this hand-wringing right now doesn't do much good. If Troy is able to play he is obviously our best option. When the season is over and we start talking 2013 draft, we can start talking about a future SS. That said, calling Troy a retread is not very accurate.

**BURGH86STEEL** · 10-08-2012, 05:00 PM

It's a good thing that the Steeler's organization has more patience then fans. The organization understands that injuries are part of the game. It's unfortunate that Troy can't play right now. I don't think Troys career is over yet and neither should anyone else.

**NW Steeler** · 10-08-2012, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL

It's a good thing that the Steeler's organization has more patience then fans. The organization understands that injuries are part of the game. It's unfortunate that Troy can't play right now. I don't think Troys career is over yet and neither should anyone else.

Agreed. And even if they draft an heir-apparent, he'll be 2 years away from starting.

**Iron Shiek** · 10-08-2012, 05:13 PM

I agree steel bucks. He's worthless.

**Oviedo** · 10-08-2012, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by SteelBucks

I'd rather play with ten on defense than have Mundy out there. (I'm only partially kidding)

What is really troublesome is how bad is Will Allen that he can't push or provide an option to Mundy????????

Of course we know none of the young guys would ever get a chance to even play a few series. Therein lies part of the problem of why we are so unprepared for the end of Troy's career and therefore must rely on Mundy.

**NorthCoast** · 10-08-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by lloydroid

I couldn't believe Clark admitted that when Troy gets hurt, the entire mental state of the defense is in shambles. If this is the case, then it's time to move on. Plus, what is Troy scheduled to make next year? If
he can't stay healthy, then don't drag the entire future of the team down. I am so sick of it. Look at McClendon as an example: Not high profile at all. He was an undrafted free agent out of Troy, for cripes sake. And yet, as we see, when you allow players to develop - and don't just hold on to vets playing time for too long - you will replenish the players. But you don't do that when holding on too long to over 30 vets who can't stay healthy; you have to move on. McClendon is obvious much more of a force than Hampton; but we would never know that if they endlessly held onto just playing CH. Time to move on from TP. Time to move to replace Foote. Time to shake the trees and find better CBs than we have. I am not saying so much this season, but certainly after it. Also, Worild showed he might be worth getting on the field more. I am just so sick of the "Steeler way" of not letting young players on the field and seeing what they can do. DL is so over the top with his "vets play only" BS. It's holding the team's development back, big time. Look at all the $ and time wasted on Aaron Smith, for cripe's sake. That is an example of futility. Get disciplined or get lost. Or should we see if we can add Kirkland, Chad Scott, Steed, Gildon, etc. to the roster while we are at it?

Fact is, Clark admitted when Troy gets hurt, the mindset of the D gets depressed. That's great. Let's get more of that going.

Fact is the Steelers have done remarkably well at retaining or letting talent go when they thought their time was done. Another team might get a year out of a player, but that's about it. Faneca, Porter, Brown, the only one they missed on was Rod Woodson, who could have been a great safety for the Steelers.
And character-wise Troy seems the type that would retire if he thought he couldn't contribute at a high level anymore.

**lloydroid** · 10-08-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by NW Steeler

Well the future SS is not on the current roster, so all this hand-wringing right now doesn't do much good. If Troy is able to play he is obviously our best option. When the season is over and we start talking 2013 draft, we can start talking about a future SS. That said, calling Troy a retread is not very accurate.

I never advocated to make any moves now. This season is this season, we have little wiggle room. But after this season? Unless there is evidence that TP is some how magically healthy for the long haul, we got to make a move. Say good bye to TP, Big Snack, Colon, Foote.....they better not F up like that did with Kirkland, Steed, Gildon, Scott, Stewart...that was a major crapping of the pants then and repeating the same kind of "hold on to old guys and paying them way too much" will kill us for the next few years too.

**lloydroid** · 10-08-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by NorthCoast

Fact is the Steelers have done remarkably well at retaining or letting talent go when they thought their time was done. Another team might get a year out of a player, but that's about it. Faneca, Porter, Brown, the only one they missed on was Rod Woodson, who could have been a great safety for the Steelers.
And character-wise Troy seems the type that would retire if he thought he couldn't contribute at a high level anymore.

Pgh has done amazing on knowing when to let players go - not perfect - but very well. But you did forget at least one other: Kevin Greene. He had 3 good years left, but they had Gildon in the wings, who did have some good years, considering he is the all-time sack leader of the team.