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    Tomlin wanted Vick in Pgh

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    Seriously? Seriously? I now have to question Tomlin's ability to judge character. He wanted Vick in Pgh. WTF? Nice. Tomlin wanted a dog-torturing and murdering felon on the Steelers' roster. Thank God the Rooneys were dead set against it. I really have to question Tomlin's character now. I've always been a big MT fan; but starting with last year's worst job of coaching in play off history, this season so far, and now finding out he wanted Vick on this team....I am starting to 2nd guess how much I support him.
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    I was more skeptical when he endorsed Barack Obama to tell you the truth!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    I was more skeptical when he endorsed Barack Obama to tell you the truth!!
    Not to turn this into a political rant, but, given our two choices then, and now, you have no decent choice either way. We are never given an option worth a gad damn sh-t when it comes down to it. I mean, McCain? Romney? Barry? All suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    Not to turn this into a political rant, but, given our two choices then, and now, you have no decent choice either way. We are never given an option worth a gad damn sh-t when it comes down to it. I mean, McCain? Romney? Barry? All suck.
    OK LloydDroid, ur starting to grow on me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    OK LloydDroid, ur starting to grow on me!!
    Just as I am getting banned.

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    At the risk of sounding racist, he's taking the team down a decidedly pro-black QB path--one which historically isn't very successful. Our saving grace happens to be that we already had a franchise (white) QB on the roster at the time. Batch, Leftwich, Dennis Dixon, Troy Smith, the big kid we had this year... No matter what you want to say, that isn't a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    At the risk of sounding racist, he's taking the team down a decidedly pro-black QB path--one which historically isn't very successful. Our saving grace happens to be that we already had a franchise (white) QB on the roster at the time. Batch, Leftwich, Dennis Dixon, Troy Smith, the big kid we had this year... No matter what you want to say, that isn't a coincidence.
    While I don't doubt the possibility of this....we were going down that road with Cowher often too.
    Batch, Tee Martin (drafted ahead of Tom Brady), Kordell, etc.
    Tomlin did bring in that kid from Washington St. who Jaworski said was the next Tom Brady (he was white).

    Off Topic: Do you ever notice whenever people make player comparisions they're always the same race.

    I'm sure Peyton Hillis was compared to Mike Alstott coming out of college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    At the risk of sounding racist, he's taking the team down a decidedly pro-black QB path--one which historically isn't very successful. Our saving grace happens to be that we already had a franchise (white) QB on the roster at the time. Batch, Leftwich, Dennis Dixon, Troy Smith, the big kid we had this year... No matter what you want to say, that isn't a coincidence.
    Tomlin has been the coach since the 2008 season.

    Charlie Batch joined the team in 2002

    Byron Leftwich joined the team in Tomlin's first year of 2008, however, I highly doubt that the rookie coach had much say in personnel that first year.

    That being said, while Lefty's skin color is black, he is not someone who you would refer to as a "black QB". His style is lily white.

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    Definately not Dancin with the Stars material.

    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Tomlin has been the coach since the 2008 season.

    Charlie Batch joined the team in 2002

    Byron Leftwich joined the team in Tomlin's first year of 2008, however, I highly doubt that the rookie coach had much say in personnel that first year.

    That being said, while Lefty's skin color is black, he is not someone who you would refer to as a "black QB". His style is lily white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    At the risk of sounding racist, he's taking the team down a decidedly pro-black QB path--one which historically isn't very successful. Our saving grace happens to be that we already had a franchise (white) QB on the roster at the time. Batch, Leftwich, Dennis Dixon, Troy Smith, the big kid we had this year... No matter what you want to say, that isn't a coincidence.
    Yea, some will accuse you of sounding racist, but I think it deserves discussion. To a degree it is nature (not just human nature) for races (i.e. breeds) to want to surround themselves with like creatures. It really is natural, so I don't want to completely point the dirty end of the stick at that mindset. Tell me, if you're in a frat and you have an Italian lineage, that when an Italian kid pledges that you don't kind of extra support him, all things being equal? I don't hate on MT for some of that. However, that being said, overly pushing for black players, at the expense of putting the best 53 players on the roster, is unforgivable. And pushing to get Vick on this team is very questionable. He might have wanted to "help a brother out" but it was an obviously jacked move, all things considered. I don't think it is right to flatly reject a QB because he's black, but at the same time, an "all-black" push for QB is just as wrong. The GM for Jacksonville, who happened to be black, seemed to make sure that all QBs on the team were black. It was no coincidence, no way. And, partly due to that jacked mindset, the team sucked in those years. Put the best 53 players on the team, regardless of race. Operating any other way is idiotic and racist. It will be interesting to see who ends up replacing Heath Miller, Keisel and Ben, won't it?

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