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    Wonder How Defensive Players Feel?

    I would be a little embarrassed if my coach decided to go for it on 4th and 1 so deep in my own team's territory.

    Tomlin did the right thing to try and win the game. But it seems to me like one of those win the battle, lose the war type of deals. That seems like the type of move that could suck the confidence out of a unit rather than empower them.

    Most accomplishments start with a belief. And Mike Tomlin showed 0 faith. Will that have long term ramifications?

    Or on the flip side will guys be motivated by anger? or fear? or something else?

    Just curious on your read. I think it will mess with the psyche of a lot of players.

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    If they aren't embarrassed by letting the Raiders hang 34 on them, then perhaps Tomlin's decision may nudge them a little closer to feeling that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooser View Post
    If they aren't embarrassed by letting the Raiders hang 34 on them, then perhaps Tomlin's decision may nudge them a little closer to feeling that way.

    Screw the nudging just tell them to man up because they sucked against an 0-2 team.

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    I think that's when guys like Keisel and Hampton as guys who played in the loss and Troy and Harrison as the best players on the D need to step up, show leadership and assist the younger guys from not letting it get to their heads. Take this terrible performance and use it to turn into some sort of motivation. And they needed to see Tomlin do what he did. They deserved it for their play - they stunk. Lets see what they do with it. Anyone who shuts down should be shown the door.

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    How do the defensive players feel? I don't need them to feel anything. Don't want touchy-feely defenders. Want soulless, unfeeling assassins back there. Want them to come out of the bye wanting to inflict pain on Mike Vick and company. The Iggles seem to want to give the ball away over and over again this season, so our defense should "feel" like the ball is theirs for the taking.


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    Going for it on 4th down when the defense is playing poorly is not different than punting on 4th and 4, because the offense hasn't performed well during a game. It was a decision to try and win the game based on what was happening on the field. If the defensive players don't like it, then they need to do something about it, Tomlin made the right decision by putting the ball in the hands of the best player on the field.

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    I feel the same as most of you. They should be embarrassed already by the performance.

    To RB's point of wanting soulless assassins, I agree. And that got me thinking about something. Has Tomlin possibly pushed the team a little too far toward drafting character vs finding guys who are just plain nasty.

    We have a bunch of nice guys and James Harrison. Did we go a little overboard in weighting character in some of our recent drafts?

    And I'm not knocking anyone's desire. Heck Ryan Clark would probably give his life to make the next big hit. But he's a nice guy. Troy's nice. Keisel's nice.

    Maybe this defense lost its soul when Farrior's career ended. He had some nasty in him. And from what I could tell, he had an infectious personality that made everyone else a little nasty whether they want to be or not.

    But now is anyone other than James a bad bad man? I'm not sure.

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    Here is perhaps the MORE IMPORTANT question:

    How does LeBeau feel and what will HE do about it?????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Here is perhaps the MORE IMPORTANT question:

    How does LeBeau feel and what will HE do about it?????????????
    Is it possible Lebeau is doing the best he can with the players he has?

    Maybe Lebeau would call the game differently if he had Ngata and Suh on the Dline?

    Maybe he'd do some things differently if Revis and Peterson were his corners?

    etc.

    Is it possible Lebeau's been making Chicken Salad out of Chicken Sh!t for a long time? And have we really just been lucky to have 1-2 great players that were so good, they make it work with the filler around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Is it possible Lebeau is doing the best he can with the players he has?

    Maybe Lebeau would call the game differently if he had Ngata and Suh on the Dline?

    Maybe he'd do some things differently if Revis and Peterson were his corners?

    etc.

    Is it possible Lebeau's been making Chicken Salad out of Chicken Sh!t for a long time? And have we really just been lucky to have 1-2 great players that were so good, they make it work with the filler around them.
    I'm not prepared to let the coach off the hook that easily. We have good players. These are the same players who manned their positions when everyone was touting where we were ranked as a defense the past few years. The difference is what they are being asked to do. My thoughts:

    1. Clearly we are less agressive than two year ago. That has to change.
    2. Why is Hampton starting and not McLendon. Hampton has been worthless...get the more athletic player out on the field.

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