No way to know, but there is a TREND of players who hold out have a higher rate of hamstring and groin injuries than those who don't miss camp. It's kind of obvious.
Originally Posted by Slapstick
Proof to back it up instead of your flapping gumbs and of course basic logic..
No one takes you serious here.
My responses to your know-it-all posts are entertaining.
Insanesteelersfan II, I'll get it out of you.
Back to the subject.
Post some evidence.
A recent study done by certified medical staff or by the NFL.
How do you know Wallaces' groin isnt just sore because it's sore.
Does your family of doctors specialize in groin injuries?
Are you a groin specialist?
i'd bet wallass is faking it so he doesnt have to practrice.
where was there any proof that he was actually working out wth a trainer in florida? because his agent said he was? an agent wouldnt lie about him being in great shape and working really hard to try to get a huge contract would he?
we were told he was faster than ever because of this 'training'. i have yet to see him get behind a db.
Trainers are mostly delusional, thinking they offer such genius that they make a huge difference in athletic performance. I watch what the "certified" trainers do in my gym, and they basically torture their "clients" without offering superior results. In other words, they make their clients do extreme crap that doesn't make them in any better shape them doing other stuff that is not as much like torture. You don't need to make people do walking lunges across the gym in order to get their legs in shape. Not necessary. It cracks me up that trainers think that being "certified" makes them such an authority on the subject. How hard is it to get that certification? I know so many "dull knives" who are certified trainers. They are everywhere.
Originally Posted by SDSteel1
I also know how NFL strength coaches roll. Their biggest, by far, concern is not getting players injured. That is by far their highest priority. But, bottom line, free weights are the most effective way to train football players, other than playing football. But an over-emphasis of power rack training can put too much stress and wear and tear on ankles, feet and knees, adding more stress to those body parts when they are already getting stress from just running around on the field.
I recall Tom Coughlin was all about hard core power racks with free weights, like squats, clean and jerks, etc. but he kept having lots of lower body injuries. Was there a relation? Some feel there was. If only he had a "certified trainer" to consult him.
Brown having 11 receptions and Wallace having 9 receptions is proof that they made the right investment? Two of Wallace's measly 9 post-holdout catches were for touchdowns, which is just as many TD catches as Brown has in his entire NFL career. And Wallace did practice today, by the way.
Originally Posted by Oviedo
1. CB Sidney Jones, Washington 6'0" 181
2. FS Budda Baker, Washington 5'10" 192
3. OLB Tyus Bowser, Houston 6'2" 244
4. ILB Connor Harris, Lindenwood 5'11 241
5. RB James Conner, Pittsburgh 6'2" 240
5c. TE Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas 6'5" 256
6. QB Chad Kelly, Mississippi 6'2" 224
7. WR Demore'ea Stringfellow, Mississippi 6'2" 212
7c. DE Collin Bevins, Northwest Missouri State 6'5" 286
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No such thing, first of all. And, why do you need proof when plain common sense makes it more than obvious to anyone who has a working brain? Do I need to prove that "water is wet" to you as well? Where is the proof that water is wet. Do I need to prove the sun is bright? Where is the proof. I don't believe it is. And, groins don't just "get sore." It's not like when lifting weights and, like I am right now, sore from pushing muscles. Obviously, you have never pulled a groin or you wouldn't appear so ignorant right now. It's nothing subtle. It's like a gun shot, not just "sore." I crack up watching NFL games where it is clearly a pulled groin and the announcers never realize it when I do. When a dude stops suddenly from moving and puts his hand on his upper, inner thigh, it's always a pulled groin. Every time. If Wallace never had it hit him suddenly like that (and I never did see him react like his groin went, but it could have happened off camera) then he doesn't have a legit pulled groin. There is no version of it going slightly. When it pops, it pops and it ain't gonna get better fast. Had he not held out, an injury would be less likely, using mere common sense, if you have any.
Originally Posted by pittpete
Hall of Famer
Hmmm... from this, it doesn't look like Wallace is thinking he'll be missing game time: [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/A-challenge-for-Steelers-wide-receivers/ccc1e99a-cc80-4c5f-81ee-9dfba8ebef15[/URL]
Good gawd!!!!! I was just jerking the Wallace supporters around. Don't take everything as such a serious commentary on world affairs. Can't we have fun here anymore without everyone thinking their PhD in football knowledge is being attacked?
Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
- Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
- Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
- Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
- John Johnson-S, Boston College
- James Conner-RB, Pitt
- Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
- Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State
This is entirely speculative. While the holdout may have increased the risk of a pull, there is no causal link between the pull and the holdout. And as DeCastro and Spence will tell you, camp and the preseason is not without its own risks.
Originally Posted by lloydroid
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Originally Posted by lloydroid
And a wannabe Mental Health expert and Social Psychology Researcher as well. Talk about delusions ...