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Originally Posted by pittpete
You can lead a droid to logic but you can't make him think it.
Jonathan Dwyer, Marcus Gilbert, James Harrison, Heath Miller, Troy Polamalu and Emmanuel Sanders are all on the injured list too.
I was unaware that they all held out of camp also...
Actually, it is not. The ONLY way to get into football shape is to PLAY FOOTBALL. Any pro trainer will concur with this assessment.
Originally Posted by winwithd
Would you ascertain that practicing football type drills in a football type environment, with a football against other football related people would get you into football type shape, similar to playing football? I'm sure most pro trainers would concur.
Originally Posted by lloydroid
No, it's not the same. Put on football pads and see if there is a difference between running in pads and running in shorts.
Originally Posted by winwithd
Do you know whether he trained in pads or a helmet or a similar weight during his workout sessions? Most receivers wear minimal if any pads, and most speed training workouts do incorporate resistance such as weighted belts and harnesses.
Originally Posted by steelz09
Did he wear shoulder pads and a helmet? Probably not. Did he get hit? No.
Did he do resistance training? Probably.
It's not debatable though.. Anyone that has played football and especially wrestling will tell you.... You can get into good shape, lift weights, run/bike, resistance training, core training, high intensity workout, etc....
They all work but it's not the same. I've done all of the above, but the first couple weeks of football practice was always hell. 2 a days... soreness, etc. Wrestling... well, thats even worse from a conditioning perspective.
Wallace signed the one year tender. I think he's extremely motivated to play and play well. We probably don't need him for Oakland. take advantage and come back in two weeks.
You are supposed to consult with a doctor if they last for more than 4 hours.
Originally Posted by eniparadoxgma
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
This is an extended holdout. Comes in plays a couple games posts solid numbers and pulls a groin to avoid real injury. We will only see him periodically the rest of the season...
He's not going to risk his career for $2.7M. It was dumb for anyone to think he would. He's played this like a punk from the beginning instead of negotiating properly. So why would ANYONE think he's going to play this season for $2.7?
And we will put the franchise tag on him no matter what. And he will hold out again next year.
He is using the exact same technique that Vincent Jackson used in SD. And it will have the same outcome.
He will lose money and the Steelers will wait time and cap space on him. But such is the way of some agents and players. But we damn sure can't let him get his way.
No way shape or form.