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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    On Mike and Mike this morning, "Greeny" went off on Ben not being considered as elite as Rodgers, Mannings, Brees, Brady, etc. He argued very strongly that Ben is every bit as good as any of them and he does things they could never do as far as keeping plays alive and making "money" plays.

    Glad to see the national media, especially someone from the Patriots loving ESPN, give Ben the love he deserves.
    Well, Mike Greenberg is an unabashed Jets lover who just saw Roethlisberger eat his team up and crap out touchdowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    On Mike and Mike this morning, "Greeny" went off on Ben not being considered as elite as Rodgers, Mannings, Brees, Brady, etc. He argued very strongly that Ben is every bit as good as any of them and he does things they could never do as far as keeping plays alive and making "money" plays.

    Glad to see the national media, especially someone from the Patriots loving ESPN, give Ben the love he deserves.
    new york media today

    Ben is a great QB.

    Ben's great on 3rd downs.

    part of what makes him great is he's unbelievable hard to bring down. secondaries cant cover for that long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    On Mike and Mike this morning, "Greeny" went off on Ben not being considered as elite as Rodgers, Mannings, Brees, Brady, etc. He argued very strongly that Ben is every bit as good as any of them and he does things they could never do as far as keeping plays alive and making "money" plays.

    Glad to see the national media, especially someone from the Patriots loving ESPN, give Ben the love he deserves.
    Not only is Greenie from the Patriots-loving ESPN, he is a huge Jets fan.

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    Steelers Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger Adapting Well To Todd Haley's Offense

    by Neal Coolong on Sep 17, 2012



    Remember when there were questions surrounding how long it would take for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger to adapt to offensive coordinator Todd Haley?

    Maybe it's really more of a question of how long it will take Haley to adapt to Roethlisberger.

    While the stat book will show the Steelers really choked the Jets out in a 27-10 Week 2 win during a 14-play, 75-yard touchdown drive that chewed 10:13 off the clock, Roethlisberger beat the Jets time and again through the 60 minute game.

    The Steelers, largely behind Roethlisberger, were 8-for-15 on third down, and converted 13 passes to first downs.

    Roethlisberger didn't turn the ball over, completing 24-of-31 passes (77.4 percent) along with two touchdowns.

    Roethlisberger was masterful in whatever anyone would like to call that offense. Not taking anything away from Haley's game-plan, which scored on five of the team's nine drives, but third downs were owned by Roethlisberger.

    And Haley took the leash off his stud quarterback, throwing the ball 31 times compared to 28 runs, that percentage leans more toward the pass, and with each passing game, that proportion seems more in line with a winning formula than the other way around.

    Even as the Steelers still continue to find success on the ground, their willingness to run paid dividends, particularly on that 14 play game-sealing drive.

    The edges are being sanded off this offense, one drive at a time, and the stellar play of Roethlisberger gives Steelers fans reason to celebrate heading into Week 3.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...eek-2-win-jets

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    And Haley took the leash off his stud quarterback, throwing the ball 31 times compared to 28 runs, that percentage leans more toward the pass, and with each passing game, that proportion seems more in line with a winning formula than the other way around.
    That's a 52% pass to 48% run ratio...that's good...

    Running the ball persistently keeps the D honest and leads to drives like the Steelers had in the 4th quarter, where the defense eventually wears down and the RBs can start to break some runs...

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    I still think Haley came out to conservative in the 1st Q of both games and putting the ball into RBs hands too much rather than letting Ben pass and run the show. He took the shackles off later. Thankfully we see the result when that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    That's a 52% pass to 48% run ratio...that's good...

    Running the ball persistently keeps the D honest and leads to drives like the Steelers had in the 4th quarter, where the defense eventually wears down and the RBs can start to break some runs...
    We'd be better 60-40 in favor of the pass, in my opinion (with 10% of those passes being RB or WR screens that are essentially an extension of the running game anyway). So far this season, Ben has been pretty darn effective (aside from one ill-advised pass late in the Denver game), while the running game hasn't shined at all. Ben's yards-per-attempt throwing the ball is more than double than Dwyer's yards-per-attempt running the ball, and more than triple Redman's yards-per-attempt running the ball so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    We'd be better 60-40 in favor of the pass, in my opinion (with 10% of those passes being RB or WR screens that are essentially an extension of the running game anyway). So far this season, Ben has been pretty darn effective (aside from one ill-advised pass late in the Denver game), while the running game hasn't shined at all. Ben's yards-per-attempt throwing the ball is more than double than Dwyer's yards-per-attempt running the ball, and more than triple Redman's yards-per-attempt running the ball so far.
    60-40 pass to run is what makes the most sense given that our talent is at QB and our WRs/TE. Until our OL can actually generate some real push we are going to have to pass to be successful. I would like to see more passes to the RBs. Will Johnson looked great receiving the ball but given his background I'm not surprised. It is just a pleasant chnage from the other Johnson who made it look unnatural.
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    You cant give a pct without 1st knowing the opponent and their strengths. If you are playing a team that is strong against the run do you impose your will or attack their weakness? It would be smart to attack their weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopplayn View Post
    You cant give a pct without 1st knowing the opponent and their strengths. If you are playing a team that is strong against the run do you impose your will or attack their weakness? It would be smart to attack their weakness.
    Absolutely...opponents' strengths/weaknesses, weather/field conditions, our injury situation, the score of the game at any given time (playing catchup in the 2nd half vs. trying to hold a lead), etc. should all impact the run vs. pass percentage in any given game, but we are talking over the long haul.

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