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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Ben missed two gimmes, one to whoever was standing in the endzone by himself and the pass was tipped away by a defensive back in the first half and Wallace didn't have anyone covering him on a seam route in the second half and I mean nobody was within 20 yards of him. Everyone wanted a new offensive coordinator and we got one, but the offense was eerily similar to last year, yards were hard to come by, no screen or delay game to slow down the pass rush and a couple brain cramps from Ben.

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    he had broncos in his face as wally broke open. not like he was sitting there just surverying the field.

    he looked to the other side of the field (going thru progressions...looks like heath was 1st option) as wally was breaking open

    just what many on here want him to do for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Ben missed two gimmes, one to whoever was standing in the endzone by himself and the pass was tipped away by a defensive back in the first half and Wallace didn't have anyone covering him on a seam route in the second half and I mean nobody was within 20 yards of him. Everyone wanted a new offensive coordinator and we got one, but the offense was eerily similar to last year, yards were hard to come by, no screen or delay game to slow down the pass rush and a couple brain cramps from Ben.

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    Actually the only thing similar to the other offense (Bruce Arians), was the final results..or lack of results. This new offense only attempted one deep pass the whole game. I dont get that.
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    Pap,

    I actually thought the play calling was pretty good. Early in the game, I think those run, run pass and short passes was on purpose. It was to protect Ben and to make the defense adjust. We utilized Heath effectively and it was a success. Once the D adjusted, our offense changed for the better and we saw our WR have more success.

    If anything, our offense suffered from lack of execution. I can't say the same for the Arians offense. Arians never adjusted ... at all. Haley did almost a 180-degree change tonight from a playcalling perspective.

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    [QUOTE=chiken;522398]he was offered more than Brown, he didn't accept it.. This loss had nothing to do with the Wide Receivers.. Ben Missed a gimme, Redman is not a feature back and our Defense was not a factor whats so ever.

    Redman didn't look great but Redman + Dywer is acceptable. Our 'D' was VERY, VERY concerning. We may make the playoffs but an elite QB will rip us apart like Peyton did tonight.[/QUOTE

    We'll see if Sanchez becomes "elite" next week. We've already made their backup QB a media star.
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    [QUOTE=DukieBoy;522423]
    Quote Originally Posted by chiken View Post
    he was offered more than Brown, he didn't accept it.. This loss had nothing to do with the Wide Receivers.. Ben Missed a gimme, Redman is not a feature back and our Defense was not a factor whats so ever.

    Redman didn't look great but Redman + Dywer is acceptable. Our 'D' was VERY, VERY concerning. We may make the playoffs but an elite QB will rip us apart like Peyton did tonight.[/QUOTE

    We'll see if Sanchez becomes "elite" next week. We've already made their backup QB a media star.
    If we don't make certain adjustments... Sanchez will look elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    Pap,

    I actually thought the play calling was pretty good. Early in the game, I think those run, run pass and short passes was on purpose. It was to protect Ben and to make the defense adjust. We utilized Heath effectively and it was a success. Once the D adjusted, our offense changed for the better and we saw our WR have more success.

    If anything, our offense suffered from lack of execution. I can't say the same for the Arians offense. Arians never adjusted ... at all. Haley did almost a 180-degree change tonight from a playcalling perspective.
    Ben has been playing behind mediocre lines for the past 3 or 4 years, he's fine with it and doesn't really need to be protected IMHO. The offense looked the same to me, they labored to move the ball. Ben was money on third down (like last year), no draws, delays or screens and there 2 or 3 times on third down you knew they were coming because Ben was killing them on third down. They did try one screen to Rainey and it was covered by the Broncos.

    The play calling was fine by me as well, as it was last year with Arians, when plays are executed well the OC looks like a genius, when they're not he looks like an imbecile. This came down to the Broncos using their home field advantage by going no huddle and the Steelers defense had no answer. The offense worked the clock and scored points, but the defense simply couldn't hold up under Manning's constant pressure from the no huddle, it's why he'll be in the HOF some day.

    Anyhow, I thought the offense looked the same, but without the deep routes. Wallace actually looked good running the underneath and intermediate routes. I hope the Steelers can sign him, him, Brown and Sanders all looked good tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Ben has been playing behind mediocre lines for the past 3 or 4 years, he's fine with it and doesn't really need to be protected IMHO. The offense looked the same to me, they labored to move the ball. Ben was money on third down (like last year), no draws, delays or screens and there 2 or 3 times on third down you knew they were coming because Ben was killing them on third down. They did try one screen to Rainey and it was covered by the Broncos.

    The play calling was fine by me as well, as it was last year with Arians, when plays are executed well the OC looks like a genius, when they're not he looks like an imbecile. This came down to the Broncos using their home field advantage by going no huddle and the Steelers defense had no answer. The offense worked the clock and scored points, but the defense simply couldn't hold up under Manning's constant pressure from the no huddle, it's why he'll be in the HOF some day.

    Anyhow, I thought the offense looked the same, but without the deep routes. Wallace actually looked good running the underneath and intermediate routes. I hope the Steelers can sign him, him, Brown and Sanders all looked good tonight.

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    It's early but people were expecting Haley to be a miracle worker. The run game was going to do this, he was going to call plays to make the oline and other players better, ect ect ect. It all starts with the QB. I have a feeling the offense is gonna look the same as long as Ben remains the QB. I guess it's going to boil down to if people are willing to accept that or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    It's early but people were expecting Haley to be a miracle worker. The run game was going to do this, he was going to call plays to make the oline and other players better, ect ect ect. It all starts with the QB. I have a feeling the offense is gonna look the same as long as Ben remains the QB. I guess it's going to boil down to if people are willing to accept that or not.
    The problem with the run game is they started Redman not Dwyer. Dwyer showed that he can make things happen where Redman showed nothing. Other than that I think the offense did quite a few good things given that they were playing behind a make shift OL for most of the game. It's tough to call screens and other plays that rely on timing and coordination when the entire rightside of your OL is on the bench.

    We lost to a team with a very good, fast defense. I am hopeful moving forward with what I saw on the offense. The defense is another story all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Dub View Post
    25 career TD's to 2 career TD's. What ever elite money is, he deserves more than Antonio Brown.
    I don't disagree, but Brown also does things Wallace doesn't/can't, like return punts and highpoint the damn ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    It's early but people were expecting Haley to be a miracle worker. The run game was going to do this, he was going to call plays to make the oline and other players better, ect ect ect. It all starts with the QB. I have a feeling the offense is gonna look the same as long as Ben remains the QB. I guess it's going to boil down to if people are willing to accept that or not.

    You don't think the offense looked different???

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