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    Quote Originally Posted by skyhawk View Post
    The Cardinals had THREE 1,000 receivers in 2008 under Haley? Really?
    Yep. Fitz, Boldin and Breaston...hough, Breaston was right on the edge (1,006 yards), but 1,000 nonetheless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Yep. Fitz, Boldin and Breaston...hough, Breaston was right on the edge (1,006 yards), but 1,000 nonetheless...
    Damn. I forgot about how hot they were. Funny how most people don't equate Haley with all that.

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    Run when they know we are going to run and pass when they know we are going to pass...that right there is awesome
    ours is not to wonder why just invert and multiply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by costanza2k1 View Post
    Run when they know we are going to run and pass when they know we are going to pass...that right there is awesome

    or better yet, to run when they think we are going to pass and pass when they think we are going to run. that right there is also awesome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    or better yet, to run when they think we are going to pass and pass when they think we are going to run. that right there is also awesome...
    Or run when they think we are going to punt. Or pass when they think we are going to kick a FG.

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    Roethsliberger sprains his ankle, waits for Haley to blow his top

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2012



    We’d hate to see how many injuries Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger would have if he weren’t wearing a red jersey in practice.

    Already suffering (so he claims) from a partially torn rotator cuff in his shoulder, Roethlisberger sprained his left ankle at practice on Saturday after being stepped on by a defensive lineman, according to USAToday.com.

    It’s the same ankle he injured during the 2011 season against the Browns.

    Roethlisberger limped off the field. He later had it wrapped in an icepack.

    The quarterback also addressed his relationship with offensive coordinator Todd Haley, which has yet to turn frosty.

    “We’re just kind of waiting for it,” Roethlisberger said regarding a potential explosion from the former Chiefs head coach and Cardinals offensive coordinator. “Todd’s the only guy to ever make Kurt Warner cuss.”

    Roethlisberger and Haley seem to be working well together, so far.

    “I think our relationship is growing and I can see where Todd’s vision of us is headed,” Roethlisberger said. “It’s all about winning. You have to put aside egos and put aside wanting to run the ball, wanting to throw the ball to just win and that’s what we both want to do.”

    As long as the Steelers win, there won’t be any trouble between Roethlisberger and Haley. If they don’t, that’s when things could get ugly.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-blow-his-top/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Roethsliberger sprains his ankle, waits for Haley to blow his top

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2012



    We’d hate to see how many injuries Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger would have if he weren’t wearing a red jersey in practice.

    Already suffering (so he claims) from a partially torn rotator cuff in his shoulder, Roethlisberger sprained his left ankle at practice on Saturday after being stepped on by a defensive lineman, according to USAToday.com.

    It’s the same ankle he injured during the 2011 season against the Browns.

    Roethlisberger limped off the field. He later had it wrapped in an icepack.

    The quarterback also addressed his relationship with offensive coordinator Todd Haley, which has yet to turn frosty.

    “We’re just kind of waiting for it,” Roethlisberger said regarding a potential explosion from the former Chiefs head coach and Cardinals offensive coordinator. “Todd’s the only guy to ever make Kurt Warner cuss.”

    Roethlisberger and Haley seem to be working well together, so far.

    “I think our relationship is growing and I can see where Todd’s vision of us is headed,” Roethlisberger said. “It’s all about winning. You have to put aside egos and put aside wanting to run the ball, wanting to throw the ball to just win and that’s what we both want to do.”

    As long as the Steelers win, there won’t be any trouble between Roethlisberger and Haley. If they don’t, that’s when things could get ugly.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-blow-his-top/
    Someone doesn't like Ben.

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    Todd Haley's hometown stay will depend on relationship with Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger
    By Jason Cole | Yahoo! Sports
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--to...isberger-.html


    LATROBE, Pa. – For a guy who is supposed to be a powder keg, new Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley sounds a lot more powder puff these days. Hopefully that bodes well for his developing relationship with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    Ben Roethlisberger's latest injury: a torn rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder. (AP …

    Haley, whose screaming jags have become a trademark over the past five years as he worked his way up to offensive coordinator in Arizona and head coach for two turbulent years in Kansas City, has made an erstwhile return home. He, his wife and their five children are building a home in the town where he spent his childhood. The son of former Steelers player and personnel man Dick Haley, Todd is trying to put down roots in a profession that's akin to hydroponics.

    One associate asked Haley recently if building a house was a good idea. Haley responded that he hoped this was his last stop.

    "I'll be here as long as they'll have me," said Haley, who's replacing longtime Steelers coordinator Bruce Arians.

    Just how long that is will largely depend on how well Haley gets along with Roethlisberger, a fiery passer who the Steelers aren't sure how to handle. While Roethlisberger has traded his troubled single days for a seemingly settled approach (his wife was at training camp with him Wednesday as they went to lunch and dinner together), there is always some drama with him.

    Wednesday featured the latest example as he "revealed" that he had a small tear in the rotator cuff of his right arm. As he explained, the tear happened in Week 6 of last season and he had no ill effects because he followed a rehab regimen. Furthermore, the tear is not unusual for NFL quarterbacks (and folks of other occupations who make their living hurling objects).

    As one Steelers executive put it half-jokingly, "That's Ben, there's always some drama." Todd Haley jokes that part of his tough guy approach is meant to scare boys looking to date his daughters. (AP) …

    And that's also why so many people have wondered aloud about how Haley and Roethlisberger will get along. An emotional collision between Haley and Roethlisberger could be a problem. Furthermore, a philosophical divide between the team (the Steelers are trying to get back to their running roots) and Roethlisberger (one of the league's best deep throwers) could be a second-coming of Chuck Noll vs. Terry Bradshaw.

    Roethlisberger said Wednesday the relationship is "great" and that stories about him and Haley not communicating earlier in the offseason were overblown because people didn't understand the NFL rules.

    [Jason Cole on YSR: Steelers won't negotiate with Mike Wallace until he reports]

    "There are a lot of rules the league has about how much you can talk in the offseason, so we didn't want to break any of those rules because we know how the league cracks down on that stuff," Roethlisberger explained.

    Haley believes the outside world doesn't understand the method to his madness. In previous stops, Haley was walking into rebuilding situations that required more attitude.

    "The general public doesn't know if that's contrived or not contrived and over the years you have seen a lot of coaches who have shown emotion," Haley said. "I take a great deal of pride in my passion for the game, but it was also what the situation dictated at the time."

    On top of that, Haley joked, there is a personal factor that occasionally drives him over the edge. Of his five children, four are girls with the oldest at age 15.

    "I want my girls' potential boyfriends to think I'm a crazy lunatic," Haley said. "I was talking to [defensive coordinator Dick] LeBeau, who has been known to lose it on the sideline from time to time and I said I do it for the potential men in the future of my daughters' lives, so I won't have to lift and stay in shape all the time."

    In all seriousness, Haley said that while he has a philosophy about the relationship between him and his players, the idea that he's out of control is overstated. It is more about circumstance.

    "People come up and say, 'Wow, you seem like a nice guy.' I am and I'm with a team that's won a lot of games," said Haley, fired in the midst of the Chiefs' 7-9 campaign last season. "[The Steelers] won 12 games last year, so I'll coach to how the situation dictates. You can't be a robot and be the same guy every day. You have to adjust to the guys you have and the situation you're in."

    There is plenty of truth to that. Over the previous eight years, Haley has bounced from Dallas to Arizona to Kansas City. Each stop had its issues.

    The Cowboys were a circus, where owner Jerry Jones and coach Bill Parcells battled over control of the roster. At one point, Haley butted heads with wide receiver Terrell Owens, a classic confrontation of Haley's live-wire style vs. Owens' temperamental side.

    Then came a stint in Arizona, where Haley helped the Cardinals reach the Super Bowl despite ownership's cheap approach. Finally there was Kansas City, where Haley and general manager Scott Pioli went to war despite the fact that Haley led the Chiefs to the playoffs in his first season [2010] and struggled last year after injuries to top players Eric Berry, Jamaal Charles and Tony Moeaki.

    Each of those places needed a change of approach and Haley's fiery style came out in the process.

    Now comes the Steelers, a place where winning is ahead of everything, even at a time when the NFL has put marketing at the forefront. Haley sat in a meeting recently that featured the coaches, executives, marketing people and other employees.

    [Jason Cole: Browns sale may hurt trio of rookies]

    As the meeting was set to begin, team president Art Rooney, whose family qualifies as football royalty, set the tone. All those great marketing ideas can wait. There is one priority with the Steelers. Win. Do that and everything else falls into place, including the relationships.

    "This organization is completely focused on winning," Haley said. "I think first and foremost in a coach-player relationship, you have to be coach. There are people who have done it other ways, but I believe you have to coach first and hopefully through time and successes a level of respect is gained on both sides. I take a great deal of pride that some of my closest friends are people that I coached, Kurt Warner, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn and Larry Fitzgerald. Those are guys I communicate with on a regular basis, go out to see and hang out with. But at the time, I coached them and they responded as players."

    The Steelers hope Roethlisberger joins that list.

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    Keisel not seeing any trouble between Big Ben, Haley

    By Kevin Patra |
    Published: August 7th, 2012

    The Pittsburgh Steelers hired offensive coordinator Todd Haley to light a fire under Ben Roethlisberger.

    After the initial week of silence, everything in Steelerville has been right as rain between the coach and his new quarterback.

    Defensive lineman Brett Keisel reiterated Tuesday on NFL Network’s “NFL AM” the two parties still are singing Kumbaya.

    “They’ve been jelling well, all those guys have been picking up the offense well,” he said. “We expected some fireworks, but they have yet to blast off.”

    As for his quarterback’s health — Roethlisberger recently told reporters he has a torn rotator cuff — Keisel said it’s just more media hype.

    “He’s good, he’s fine, I think some of it has been a little bit exaggerated, but he’s fine, he’s going to be ready to go,” he said.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/08/07/keis...headline_stack

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