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    I don't look for Wallace to show up until the start of regulation play. I doubt if he'll hold out for the first ten games because it might brand him a troublemaker. I also doubt he'll be at TC or play in preseason games simply because he doesn't have to.
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    He will sign the day after they don't have to wear this any more

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    I originally though that Wallace would get close to the contract that Brown signed and that he would be in camp right around this time. Obviously, I was incorrect.

    Wallace is in a tough position, through his own doing. If he signs the tender and shows up now, it's going to be hard for him to save face. I think he'll show closer to the end of the preseason and play in perhaps the last preseason game. Ultimately, if he wants to get paid, he needs a big year, and sitting out and lacking familiarity with the offense is to his detriment.

    I'm less optimistic that he signs long term. I would not give him $10/million per year that he wants because, unlike Vincent and DeSean Jackson, he is not facing a franchise tag or UFA. The Steelers can control him both this year and next under the tag. He and his agent need to account for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    I originally though that Wallace would get close to the contract that Brown signed and that he would be in camp right around this time. Obviously, I was incorrect.

    Wallace is in a tough position, through his own doing. If he signs the tender and shows up now, it's going to be hard for him to save face. I think he'll show closer to the end of the preseason and play in perhaps the last preseason game. Ultimately, if he wants to get paid, he needs a big year, and sitting out and lacking familiarity with the offense is to his detriment.

    I'm less optimistic that he signs long term. I would not give him $10/million per year that he wants because, unlike Vincent and DeSean Jackson, he is not facing a franchise tag or UFA. The Steelers can control him both this year and next under the tag. He and his agent need to account for that.
    Wallace should accept the contract that Brown signed. It is a fair contract for all involved. The problem is completely Wallace and being unreasonable. He has completely overplayed his hand. Worse yet he was playing with an organization that doesn't lose and can't be pressured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Wallace should accept the contract that Brown signed. It is a fair contract for all involved. The problem is completely Wallace and being unreasonable. He has completely overplayed his hand. Worse yet he was playing with an organization that doesn't lose and can't be pressured.
    Well, they can be pressured; it just doesn't do any good and, it seems, Mike Wallace and/or his agent haven't figured that out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Wallace should accept the contract that Brown signed. It is a fair contract for all involved. The problem is completely Wallace and being unreasonable. He has completely overplayed his hand. Worse yet he was playing with an organization that doesn't lose and can't be pressured.
    Why not give him a contract similar to what Shady McCoy signed? It's slightly more money than Brown got (so Wallace saves some face) but not much more (so the Steelers save some face as well). It's got the same $8.5 million signing bonus that Brown got, but more guaranteed money overall (first 3 seasons' salaries fully guaranteed).

    Inside LeSean McCoy's $45M contract extension
    By Brian McIntyre NFL.com
    Published: May 22, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
    Updated: May 22, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.

    Late last week, the Philadelphia Eagles signed running back LeSean McCoy to a five-year extension worth $45 million. With McCoy already under contract through this season, the new extension locked McCoy up through 2017 for $45.615 million over the next six seasons. According to a source knowledge of the specifics of the contract, here's how McCoy's deal breaks down:

    2012: McCoy received an $8.5 million signing bonus, which will be prorated against the cap through the 2016 season ($1.7 million per year) and the $615,000 McCoy was scheduled to earn in the final year of his rookie contract has been fully guaranteed (skill, injury and cap). McCoy's cap number has increased from $957,533 to $2,657,533.

    2013: $3 million in fully guaranteed base salary, a $100,000 workout bonus and up to $150,000 in per game active roster bonuses ($9,375 per game). If McCoy is active for all 16 games, his cap number in 2013 would be $4.95 million.

    2014: $7.65 million in fully guaranteed base salary, a $100,000 workout bonus and up to $250,000 in per game active roster bonuses ($15,625 per game). If McCoy is active for all 16 games, his cap number in 2014 will be $9.7 million.

    As long as McCoy is active for all 48 games, the cash payout over the first three years of the contract is $20.365 million, with $19.75 million of that amount representing "new money" and an additional $1 million guaranteed remaining over the final three years of the contract.

    2015: $9.75 million in base salary, of which $1 million is fully guaranteed, a $250,000 workout bonus and $250,000 in per game active roster bonuses ($15,625 per game). If McCoy is active for all 16 games, his 2015 cap number will be $11.95 million.

    2016: $6.9 million in base salary and a $250,000 workout bonus. McCoy's cap number is scheduled to be $8.85 million.

    2017: $7.6 million in base salary and a $250,000 workout bonus. McCoy's cap number is scheduled to be $7.85 million.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ract-extension

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    Or how about a Steve Smith like contract?

    4/10/2012: Signed a four-year, $37.75 million contract w/2016 Option. The deal contains $16.8 million guaranteed, including a $10 million signing bonus and each of Smith's first three base salaries. 2012: $1 million, 2013: $3.75 million, 2014: $4 million (+ $3 million option bonus), 2015: $7 million, 2016: $9 million (Option Year), 2017: Free Agent
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2386/steve-smith

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    Okay, I found it...Arian Foster's contract...it's the Antonio Brown contract with a bigger signing bonus and more guaranteed money overall:

    3/5/2012: Signed a five-year, $43.5 million contract. The deal contains $20.75 million guaranteed, including a $12.5 million signing bonus, Foster's first-year salary, and $3.25 million of his second-year salary. Foster is eligible for annual per-game roster bonuses worth up to $500,000 per year. 2012: $5 million, 2013: $5.25 million, 2014: $5.75 million, 2015: $6 million, 2016: $6.5 million, 2017: Free Agent
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5469/arian-foster

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    From wht I've read in the past, the Steelers usually prefer not to guarantee salaries...

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