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Thread: Pittsburgh Steelers ink Antonio Brown to 5 year 42.5 million dollar extension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    Well, fortunately Mike Wallace is about a lot more than simply speed. Watch his highlight film and you'll see that very quickly. $10 Mil+ wouldn't be for a decoy, it would be for a Pro-Bowl receiver that makes the whole Offense better when he's on the field. It would be for a guy that opposing D's have to account for any time he's on the field for fear that he might get behind them.
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    some people make it sound like he's dwight stone. there's plenty of fast guys in the league or trying to get in the league. yet,we dont see them put up the stats wally has

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    Well, fortunately Mike Wallace is about a lot more than simply speed. Watch his highlight film and you'll see that very quickly. $10 Mil+ wouldn't be for a decoy, it would be for a Pro-Bowl receiver that makes the whole Offense better when he's on the field. It would be for a guy that opposing D's have to account for any time he's on the field for fear that he might get behind them.
    Unfortunately there isn't $10M per year to pay Wallace so it is a moot point what he is worth.

    It is a simple dynamic:

    A. Mike, do you want to remain a member of the Steelers? If so, get t camp and sign a similar contract to Antonio Brown.

    B. Mike, do you want $10M per year more than you want to stay a member of the Steelers? If so, see you sometime this season and good luck in free agency.

    It's not hard and it is totally up to Wallace. All this constant repeating of what he does, how good he is. how he makes others better, etc. etc, is meaningless because the money is the money. Wallace just needs to pick A or B and it is done.
    Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!

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    for a guy that 'does so much for the rest of the offense', we sure didnt tear up the scoreboard the last couple years with wallace.
    are we really willing to say that the rest of our players, ben, brown, heath, mendy, cotch and such are so crappy that wallace carried them to the 21st scoring offense and without him we will fall to the bottom of scoring offense this year if we dont have him? i am willing to bet nobody wants to say all those guys suck. i am also willing to bet that our offense does better than last year statistically even without wallace.
    i'm not saying our team isnt better with him(money not taken into account) but to think we cant be competitive(like many here are claiming) is crazy talk. we are not talking about losing a franchise qb and replacing him with a rookie qb or some journeyman qb. we are talking about replacing a 1000 yard, 8 td wr with a 700 yard, 6 td wr............there are 50 wrs in the nfl that can put up those numbers at 4 million a year. i dont think any extra 300 yards and a couple tds are worth an 8 million per cap hit.

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    Again, my point is missed...

    Mike Wallace's first eight games last season might be worth paying $10 million per year...but his last eight games and his playoff game are definitely not...

    My "decoy" response is for people who say that Wallace drew the coverage so Brown could succeed...first of all, I don't agree with that notion...I believe that Brown succeeded upon his own merit and hard work...secondly, if that were somehow true, that is not worth $10 million per year either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Sigh...

    Again, my point is missed...

    Mike Wallace's first eight games last season might be worth paying $10 million per year...but his last eight games and his playoff game are definitely not...

    My "decoy" response is for people who say that Wallace drew the coverage so Brown could succeed...first of all, I don't agree with that notion...I believe that Brown succeeded upon his own merit and hard work...secondly, if that were somehow true, that is not worth $10 million per year either...
    brown himself said a lot of his success came from teams concentrating on wallace

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    is Nate Washington available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    for a guy that 'does so much for the rest of the offense', we sure didnt tear up the scoreboard the last couple years with wallace.
    are we really willing to say that the rest of our players, ben, brown, heath, mendy, cotch and such are so crappy that wallace carried them to the 21st scoring offense and without him we will fall to the bottom of scoring offense this year if we dont have him? i am willing to bet nobody wants to say all those guys suck. i am also willing to bet that our offense does better than last year statistically even without wallace.
    i'm not saying our team isnt better with him(money not taken into account) but to think we cant be competitive(like many here are claiming) is crazy talk. we are not talking about losing a franchise qb and replacing him with a rookie qb or some journeyman qb. we are talking about replacing a 1000 yard, 8 td wr with a 700 yard, 6 td wr............there are 50 wrs in the nfl that can put up those numbers at 4 million a year. i dont think any extra 300 yards and a couple tds are worth an 8 million per cap hit.
    Yeah, our scoring offense last year was crap. We scored only 34 offensive touchdowns last season. Look at where that production came from though...half of those TD's were scored by either Mendenhall (9) or Wallace (8). Neither of those guys are in camp right now (PUP...likely out for 6 weeks...and unsigned RFA tender...may be out for 10 weeks). Outside of those two guys, Redman scored 3 rushing TD's and Clay scored 1 rushing TD. Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, Miller, and Ward scored 2 receiving TD's each with 1 TD catch each for Saunders, Johnson, and Moore. Ward and Moore are already gone, Saunders is suspended for 4 games, and it is still questionable about whether Clay or Johnson might make the team. Just to get up to the crappy 34 offensive TD's we had last year (which sucked, by the way), we need Redman, Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, and Miller to improve upon their scoring prowess BIG TIME in 2012.

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    Toney Clemons seriously???

    Mike Wallace 3 years in NFL record is better than Jerry Rice. I am not saying he is better than Jerry Rice (different era,different rules) but you don't put those numbers just being a decoy in NFL.
    Did anyone ever stop to think that if Mike played for most other teams that he wouldn't have these amazing stats? He just happened to have Big Ben who likes to play sandlot football and heave the hail Marys. Think Unibrow from Balimore would have made him look so good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grotonsteel View Post
    If lamar Woodley and Timmons can earn a paycheck of 10 million/yr i don't see why MW should not? He has far better production that those two LB last season.
    Woodley and Timmons both fill positions on the field which cannot be easily glossed over/covered by someone else if they are not dominant at their specialty. Mike is one of THREE receivers who can more easily be replaced without as much of a let down on the field. On offense, it only takes ONE guy to get open for Ben to pass the ball to. On defense, every man is on an island and must excel at his assignment for the D to be effective. It may sound cliche, but the saying that wide receivers are a dime a dozen has some truth to it. Look what happened last year when Potsie got old - It only takes one weak link on the D to be exposed over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Yeah, our scoring offense last year was crap. We scored only 34 offensive touchdowns last season. Look at where that production came from though...half of those TD's were scored by either Mendenhall (9) or Wallace (8). Neither of those guys are in camp right now (PUP...likely out for 6 weeks...and unsigned RFA tender...may be out for 10 weeks). Outside of those two guys, Redman scored 3 rushing TD's and Clay scored 1 rushing TD. Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, Miller, and Ward scored 2 receiving TD's each with 1 TD catch each for Saunders, Johnson, and Moore. Ward and Moore are already gone, Saunders is suspended for 4 games, and it is still questionable about whether Clay or Johnson might make the team. Just to get up to the crappy 34 offensive TD's we had last year (which sucked, by the way), we need Redman, Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, and Miller to improve upon their scoring prowess BIG TIME in 2012.
    The one guy that we need to improve is Ben. The WRs, RBs, and TEs don't matter that much. It's mostly on Ben and Haley to figure out how to score and execute.

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