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Feltdizz, it made me take aim.
If Joe had done all he could do, then this sh!t would have been stopped back in the late 90's or early 00's at the latest. It's simply preposterous to think JoePa didn't know EVERYTHING going on at the school. He was easily the most powerful and most feared man on campus (you could argue one of the most powerful in all of PA).
Even if you don't believe the Freeh report (or think it wildly exaggerates Paterno's role) - he DID know about the incident. He DIDN'T push further and really washed his hands by saying he turned it over to others. And he DID allow Sandusky access to the campus and to continue bringing children with him. That last item is ridiculous.
I grew up a big fan of Paterno and have always rooted for PSU but his lack of action (and possibly active engagement in a coverup) is unforgiveable and sickening. He allowed his and the football team's reputation to be more important than many childrens welfare.
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I agree Ghost. When I said I would like to think that, he did all that he could have I should have said, I wish he could have did all that he could have. If Joe would have put his foot down on the matter probably less kids would have gotten hurt. As I said, he has done a lot of good but with this incident...it doesn't wash it away. And for those that don' think Joe was powerful enough, he's probably one of the few men in this country that if wanted, could pick up the telephone and ask to speak with the President of the United States. To me, right or wrong with my opinion, his legacy is toast.
JoePa's. legacy is shot... if it was football related...violations, money, etc... he would recover from it but kids... you can't recover from that.
30 Seconds With Franco Harris: ĎIt Was a Great Time to Be in Pittsburghí
By VINCENT M. MALLOZZI
July 21, 2012
Running back Franco Harris helped the Pittsburgh Steelers win four Super Bowls during his 13-year Hall of Fame career. As a rookie 40 years ago, he caught a deflected touchdown pass from Terry Bradshaw that instantly became known as the Immaculate Reception; it gave the Steelers their first playoff victory, against Oakland. Harris, 62, appeared at a fund-raiser last month for the Franciscan Sisters of the Poor Foundation at Yankee Stadium.
Do you still get goose bumps when you think about the Immaculate Reception?
I have to admit that catch keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. When people look back at the great success that the Steelers have had the last 40 years and wonder where it all started, well, it all began right there. If not for that catch, all the success that followed might not have ever happened.
What were your thoughts heading into that 1972 season with a franchise that had never won a playoff game?
From 1933 to 1971, the Steelers were the worst team in N.F.L. history, and thatís the team I was going to play for, so I really didnít go in with so much hope. But that 1972 season was phenomenal, and the fans went crazy. For 40 years, it was like our fans had this pent-up energy and frustration; they never had an outlet to cheer. But that year, it all came out, and in the decade that followed, it never let up. It was a great time to be in Pittsburgh.
When you came out of Penn State, did you think the Steelers would draft your college teammate Lydell Mitchell ahead of you?
I didnít know who the Steelers were going to pick, but I was hoping it wouldnít be me. In my wildest dreams, I never would have thought I would have been the first running back taken in the draft that year, I still canít comprehend that.
What teams were the toughest for you to run against?
During the 1970s, the Houston Oilers, the Oakland Raiders and the Dallas Cowboys were all tough.
What defensive player hit you the hardest?
This is what I always told myself: ďFranco, if this guy hits you so hard that you feel it, donít look up; donít look at who it is.Ē I never wanted to know who it was because I didnít want to get into the frame of mind that hey, I have to watch out for that guy or that guy. So I just never paid attention to it.
What about practicing against the future Hall of Fame defensive players Joe Greene, Jack Ham, Jack Lambert and Mel Blount?
They were not allowed to touch me; that was the rule of the land. It was like: Hey, guys, Iím here for Sunday. Donít beat me up on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Who was the best running back of your era?
I would say Walter Payton, no doubt about it. That guy was tenacious. But if youíre looking at different styles, no one was a tougher runner than Earl Campbell. Oh my God, that guy could run.
What are your thoughts on Jerry Sandusky?
It really is bothersome and upsetting. I know Jerry, and it just makes you shake your head. He was there as a graduate assistant when I was there. It just blows your mind. For someone to set up a structure to help kids and then it looked like, allegedly, that he broke that trust, itís very disturbing.
Franco Harris: from hesitant fan to Pittsburgh Passion's eager co-owner
July 21, 2012 11:43 am
By Brandon Boyd / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Franco Harris wasn't on the fence after he first heard about the Pittsburgh Passion -- he was looking through it.
Harris, the former star Steelers running back, met a Passion player several years ago in a Giant Eagle and was invited to a game. At first, he was unsure about going.
"I said 'Oh, you know, if I get a chance,' " he said. "And I thought about it and said I would go check it out, but I wanted to be careful in checking it out."
Instead of buying a ticket and going through the gates, Harris decided on a sneaky way of checking out the women's football action -- or at least the sneakiest way possible for a former Super Bowl MVP.
He went around to the back of the stadium and watched through a fence.
"I saw all these balls flying through the air and thought 'man, this looks pretty good.' I was sitting there and the level of play was surprising," he said.
For the next game, Harris watched the action from the sidelines. From there, his relationship with the Passion flourished, and he eventually bought part of the team in 2011.
Harris owns the team along with former Passion player Teresa Conn.
Harris is all-in on the Passion, and the once skeptical Pittsburgh legend is now helping them to create history of their own.
The Passion -- whose highlights include being the first women's football team to broadcast games on a major television network, the first women's football team featured in Sports Illustrated and the first women's football team featured on ESPN -- will become the first team to play host to the Women's Football Alliance national championship at an NFL field.
Harris said Art Rooney II and Dan Rooney, owners of the Steelers, were influential in helping the Passion secure the championship at Heinz Field.
"The Rooneys and their organization have really been great in supporting women's football. It makes you feel good that someone at their level realizes this is a great women's football league," Harris said.
Four teams will be playing today in the semifinals to determine who plays in the championship game Aug. 4. The goal of Harris and the Passion, who were eliminated by the DC Divas earlier in the postseason, is to provide an entertaining day for the visitors.
To reach that goal, they've decided to sandwich football between more football.
"We thought we'd make it a great day about football," Harris said. "Here in Western Pennsylvania, we love our football."
At 10 a.m., the WFA All-Star game will be played at J.C. Stone Field. Five Passion players are on the first team and two players are on the second team.
After a tailgate challenge, the championship game will start at 4 p.m. At 7 p.m., the Passion will present a live screening of the Pro Football Hall of Fame enshrinement on Heinz Field's 96-foot jumbotron.
"You get to see some great football on the field, and then we have a chance to celebrate greatness of the players that played in Pittsburgh," Harris said.
Four players elected into the Hall of Fame -- Jack Butler, Dermontti Dawson, Curtis Martin and Chris Doleman -- have ties to the area.
"This is a big night for Pittsburgh with the Hall of Fame. Don't watch it at home. Come to the stadium and we can all watch it together. We have four great players being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Let's all celebrate together," he said.
"That was really the essence of adding that. How many venues do you get to really honor this occasion in a stadium where Pitt and the Steelers play now? I would love to share that with other people who really love what's happening."
For those still unsure about going to a women's football game, Harris said they only need to look to him to see how one game can make a world of difference.
"All I can say is that the first game I went to, I was skeptical. I became a fan," Harris said. "I just want to tell people to come out and see some great football."
And not through a fence, either.
Convicts in prison for child crimes are not treated too kindly.... Sandusky might get a taste of his own actions.
Originally Posted by feltdizz
I have an uncle who is a CO and this is not a myth or an urban legend type of thing. Dahmer did not last long. They may give him a taste of his own medicine. Who knows, because of who he is his the lawyer may try to stop this.
Originally Posted by NorthCoast
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don't know how true it is and i don't know why he would not tell me the truth about prison but,here is what i was told. i had an employee that was in prison for five years for being a violent person. he settled stuf with his fist to the point he beat the heck out of someone and gave them brain damage and the courts got tired of seeing him so, off to pison he went. i think it was a maryland or pa prison, he was an employee of mine 7 years ago. my father talked me into giving him a job and what a mistake. good worker, i was afraid of him because he looked evil on top of everythin but, he was nice to me. one day one of my cement finishers popped off at me dad and this x-con beat him to a pulp right in the middle of a concrete pour. kicked his butt so badly, we were short one man and the concrete trucks kept coming. anyway this x-con said the myths about child molestors and their treatment are not true, the prisons know they are marked men in prison so, they get special treatment and special protection. as i said, don't know how true it is but, it is what he told me.
with sanduskys pention, maybe he'll pay some cons to protect him ?
I have a few friends who still vehemently defend Paterno. To them I have 2 questions:
1. If YOUR son was abused by Sandusky, would you feel the same towards Paterno?
2. If at YOUR job, you found out that someone below you was abusing kids and YOU reported it to the authorities and they did nothing, would YOU continue to work there for years without saying anything else - just to protect your company's image and your own job????
Last edited by Eich; 07-23-2012 at 05:43 PM.