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Thread: Just How Safe Is Steelers Inside Linebacker Stevenson Sylvester?

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    Benchwarmer Pops8's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyplay1 View Post
    BTW: I am still not convinced or sure which is the strong side or the weak side.
    From a base formation, the SOLB (Sam) will line up on the defensive left in a 43 or 34. Will LB lines up on the defensive right. Mac is the Middle LB in a 43 and MAC and Buck are the ILB's in 34. That is the base and presnap doesn't really mean too terribly much. Historically, most QB's are right handed so most teams run right (the QB's natural field of vision). So, defenses called their Left (offensive right) the strong side. The Sam Backer was generally your most athletic player and best tackler so you put him on the side the offense was most likely to run. These terms are pretty standard, but by no means the only ones. I've seen lots of systems that use different labels.

    When the offense comes to the line the defense immediately begins to dissect the situation and start their adjustments. One of the first things they look at is the strength of the offensive formation. There are some variations to how defenses declare offensive strength, but in general it will account for both running and passing strength. Finding an offense's formation strength helps determine the adjustments. Lets consider a very basic situation:

    ______FS_________$
    C_______________________C
    ______W___M___
    ____E___T___T__E__S

    X____T_G_C_G_T_Y
    __________1_____________Z

    I did a quick base 4-3 here. Notice Sam (S) is not 3 yards off the ball but rather on the line. That is because the offensive formation strength is to that side (determined in this case by the TE or Y. Of course, that can change based upon where the two backs I did not draw line up.) The DE will stay in his assigned Gap which is outside shoulder of the OT, but the TE creates another running lane so Sam moves to the line to defend the outside run and quite possibly cover the TE if he releases to pass pattern. It depends on the other receivers and the coverage call. Lets just keep it simple and deal with run - the addtional run lane outside Y is now defended by Sam on the line.

    But what if:

    ______FS_________$
    C_______________________C
    ______W___M___S
    ____E___T___T__E

    ___Y_T_G_C_G_T_________X
    Z_________1

    Since I was determining strength in this case by TE (Y), it is now on the offensive left. To the Defense, this is Will's side. Different defenses deal with this in different ways. One way would be to have Will come to the line like Sam did in the prior formation:

    ______FS_________$
    C_______________________C
    ______M___S
    __W_E___T___T__E

    ___Y_T_G_C_G_T_________X
    Z_________1

    This might well be acceptable if the wide side of the field is still to the offensive right. However, if the wide side of the field is to the offenses left, you might want your best tackler (Sam) on that side. So, you might choose to flip flop Sam and Will.

    ______FS_________$
    C_______________________C
    ______M___W
    __S_E___T___T__E

    ___Y_T_G_C_G_T_________X
    Z_________1

    Neither solution is right or wrong. It just depends on your personnel and philosophies. HS and College have more variation in athletic ability which is to say there may be a huge difference between Sam and Will's capabilities. That athletic difference isn't so prevalent in the NFL and for that (and a few other reasons) you don't see LB's flip sides.

    These are basic examples to illustrate the point. It gets a lot more complex especially with the modern passing game. By way of example, consider:


    X_______TGCGTY
    ___Z______1_____________H
    __________2

    Again, different defenses might classify the offensive strength differently in this case. I would say the run strength is to the offensive right due to Y. However, the passing strength is balanced because you have Twins on the left with X-Z and you have a Twins set on the right with Y-H. The tailback (2) is balanced. How will the defense adjust? Well, it depends on a lot of factors. If its third and long and the DC wants to just stop the big play, he may sit back in a coverage package. Since a 5 yard run would not hurt, he may drop Sam off the line so he can more easily drop into his pass coverage zone. (pass coverage really drives the complexity over run strength).

    Okay, I've rambled on too much. Just remember Defensive and Offensive strength are not the same thing. Defensive names like Sam, Will, Mac, Buck are labels for player positions (I could just as easily call them Lenny, Laser, Razer, and Rino). Any defense worth a plug nickle will flex/adapt their formation to meet the offense. Defenses flex or change based on a lot of things such as their own capabilities, offensive strength, knowledge of the opposition, down and distance, defensive philosophy/coaching preference, etc, etc. The run and pass strength of the offense is one factor in determining how the defense will adjust before the snap. (aside: this is why offensive motion into being - it is trying to get the defense to show their coverage based upon how they adapt.)

    Hopefully that helped clear up the question of strength.

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    Baker was a starter at Will backer in LSU's 4-3 defense.

    Johnson has experience at both Will and Sam in Cincinnati's 4-3 defense.

    Those skill sets translate better to ILB's in our 3-4 rather than OLB's (where we'd be looking for undersized 4-3 DE's instead). Both players will have more of an impact on special teams than on defense anyway if, of course, they even manage to make the team.

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