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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti View Post
    hope this deal gets done.

    wallace has conducted himself like a true professional, despite the hysterics of some of the posters here.

    he has been called lazy, greedy, selfish, and being in possession of an out of control ego, which is the exact opposite of what I have seen in the 3 years wallace has played WR here. the pile on has been pretty disheartening to watch.

    the steelers have had a bargain in wallace. he has earned a fair deal.

    pay that man his money. (for ruthless)
    Nice...you know I couldn't possibly let a good Teddy KGB quote just hang out there...


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    Well, at least according to nfl.com it is getting close.

    Mike Wallace, Steelers reportedly progress on contract

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    • By Gregg Rosenthal
    • Around The League editor
    • Published: July 19, 2012 at 05:05 p.m.
    • Updated: July 19, 2012 at 05:32 p.m.








    Mike Wallace and the Pittsburgh Steelers might get a contract done this offseason after all.
    With training camp approaching, Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com reports the two sides are in "close contact" and have made recent progress toward a deal. This is a change of tone since, well, this entire offseason. Wallace was believed to be asking for an exorbitant salary, and there was very little optimism a deal could be done.
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    The sides are expected to keep a "steady pace" in talks until training camp starts. Wallace remains unsigned after receiving a restricted free-agent tag this offseason for $2.72 million. We'd be surprised if he showed up to training camp on time without a new contract.
    The theory this offseason is that the Steelers eventually would have to make a choice between Wallace and Antonio Brown, like they once did with Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress. (Nice decision there.)
    If the Steelers could lock up Wallace long-term this offseason, that would give them a lot of time to get Brown under contract before he's an unrestricted free agent in 2014.
    The Steelers cut offensive tackle Johnathan Scott on Thursday, which frees up some salary-cap space to spend on Wallace.

    -----What made me laugh about this article was the 1st 3 or 4 comments made by fans on the article were all expressing joy at the last sentence about Scott being let go. Also they stuck in the video 32 on 32 again which was the subject of another article. Incidentally, this video was I thought a very fair view of the new OC concerns. Both Willie McGinest and Charles Davis had some sensible comments on the subject. Hope they are accurate.

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    New Deal With Mike Wallace Can Be Both Cap Friendly And Lucrative

    Sunday, July 22nd, 2012 by Dave Bryan



    After the release of Jonathan Scott on Thursday, the Pittsburgh Steelers are approximately $6 million under the salary cap. Keep in mind that figure also includes the $2.74 restricted tender that wide receiver Mike Wallace is currently wearing as well. If you pull that tender amount out, the team has approximately $8.74 million in cap space to work with to accommodate a new deal. Now of course David DeCastro figures to eat up another $1 plus million of that cap space when his deal is completed and the Steelers will certainly want to have about $2 million at their discretion in case injuries strike, so that puts them back around $5.74 million available in cap space for a year one hit of a Wallace deal.

    I have also mentioned previously that it is in my belief that the three $500,000 veteran credits the Steelers have at their disposal have not yet been applied. In 2011 they had three $1 million veteran credits at their disposal, and they used them on James Farrior, Hines Ward and Casey Hampton. There is no reason to think that they will not use those credits, which are borrowed from future years, in 2012. Should that indeed be the case, that puts the Steelers back at roughly $7.25 million in available space to work with for Wallace.

    Structure is everything when it comes to contracts. So many people want to look at the total value as well as the perceived average per year and base their opinions solely on that. I am here to tell you that that is the wrong way to look at contracts. The structure, signing bonus and break down by individual years are the most important elements of any deal. Often times roster bonuses, option bonuses and escalators are often listed in the initial reports as guaranteed money along with the total value of a deal. Why do agents release the numbers initially to the media this way? Because it looks good, that's why.

    I pointed to the deal the other day that the Baltimore Ravens gave to running back Ray Rice as a great example of structure in relation to a way the Steelers could do a new deal with Wallace. I think many thought in that example I was trying to say that would be the exact money Wallace would get. I wasn't, as I was merely pointing to the structure of the contract, not the actually amounts, just so we are clear.

    Rice received a $15 million signing bonus in that five year deal upon signing. That $15 million is amortized out equally over the 5 years of the deal as salary cap charges. That means that in all 5 years of the deal that $3 million is charged to the Ravens salary cap. So in 2012, Rice has an amortized signing bonus charge of $3 million. His base salary in 2012 is $2 million, so right there you see that Rice will count only $5 million against the Ravens cap in 2012.

    So where is the other "guaranteed" money at? In 2013 Rice has a $7 million option bonus due him that the Ravens will surely pay and it should be guaranteed fully in case of injury. Semantics. That $7 million option, once paid, is amortized like a signing bonus and is spread out for cap purposes over the remaining four years left on the deal. That means that Rice will have an additional $1.75 million bonus charge added to years two though five. That $1.75 million is stacked on top of the $3 million signing bonus cap charge that I talked about above. So that means in years two through five that Rice will have a $4.75 million total amortized bonus charge against the cap on top of his base salaries due him, as well as any incentives he earns in his performance escalators. More on those in a bit.

    In 2013 Rice is scheduled to earn a base salary of $1 million, so that would make his 2013 cap hit only $5.75 million. So as you can see, this is a perfect example of a structure that pays Rice $24 million by March of next year, because that is when the option bonus needs to be exercised, yet the Ravens only incur cap hits of $5 million in 2012 and $5.75 in 2013. Essentially his cap hit stays flat and helps the Ravens in 2013 when the salary cap is expected to remain flat as well.

    The base salaries for Rice in 2014-2016 are $4 million, $3 million and $3 million respectively and these are not guaranteed. His cap hits, assuming he does not trigger his escalator by then, are scheduled to be $8.75 million, $7.75 million and $7.75 million in years three through five. His highest cap hit peaks in year three of the deal. If Rice is still producing after year three, they will obviously retain him, and in fact, they are betting he essentially has four more years in him with a 5th year being a bonus.

    Ok, so now we have $34 million of the reported $40 million accounted for, so where is the other $6 million? Rice has another $5 million that he can earn through a triggered performance incentive. All he has to do is to hit it once in the first three years. If he hits it in 2012, he gets and extra million in 2012, as well as the remaining 4 years of the deal. If he hits it in 2014, he gets an extra million in that year and another $2 million in both 2015 and 2016. That escalator is triggered by Rice reaching specific rushing/receiving targets in any of the first three years of the deal, and if the team finishes in the top 10 in total offense.

    That puts us at $39 million, so where is the other $1 million? I believe that $1 million to be in the form of workout bonuses in years two through five of the deal. $250,000 in each of those years. That amount is of course added to his salary cap hit once earned, so that should mean that in 2013, his cap hit is likely to be $6 million, and could be as high as $7 million, should he trip his escalator. That $250,000 workout bonus each year is not guaranteed though.

    So what does this have to do with Wallace? Well, you can expect his new deal, if one is reached, will likely will be structured quite similarly to the one of Rice. Maybe not the exact amounts, but the structure. The key thing is the signing bonus and the second year money that is likely to be either in the form of a roster bonus or an option bonus. If it is a roster bonus, it can easily be restructured in 2013 and paid out as a signing bonus, thus lowering the cap hit. The most I see Wallace getting as far as a signing bonus goes, on say a five-year deal, would be $18 million, which would create a salary cap liability in each year of the deal of $3.6 million. Add that on to a max $2 million base salary in 2012, and Wallace has at most a cap charge in 2012 of $5.6 million. Year two of the deal could be an option bonus of say $6 to $8 million, which would create an additional salary cap charge in years two through five of anywhere between $1.5 and $2 million. Say his 2013 base salary is $1 million, then Wallace essentially makes anywhere between $24 to $26 million by March of 2013.

    Those are high end amounts in my opinion and only a crude example of how a deal, that could be structured in so many different ways, could be done on a high end, yet be cap friendly at the same time in the first two years of the deal.

    The ultimate goal of Omar Khan is to keep year one and year two of the deal as flat as possible cap hit wise and around $5 million in each of those first two years. At the same time, he will need to give Wallace enough guaranteed money in the first two years two appease him. Realistically I see a $15 million signing bonus as tops, followed up with an option bonus of around $7 million in 2013. Add in a $2 million base salary in 2012 and a $1 million base salary in 2013 and Wallace basically gets $25 million "guaranteed". That scenario would result in cap hits in 2012 of $5 million and $5.75 million in 2013. Fill in the blanks in years three through five of non-guaranteed base salaries and perhaps roster or workout bonuses, and you get a deal that might just total out at as high as $40 million, just like Rice.

    In 2014 and on, which includes the final three years of the Wallace deal, should be absorbed easily with the new TV deal money expected to kick in and the subsequent increase of the cap. What that cap increase will be at that time, we still don't exactly know. The roster also figures to be average in age by that time in addition, and Wallace would likely be in the top ten or so of cap hits. It is sacrilegious to say, but players like James Harrison, Troy Polamalu, Heath Miller and Ike Taylor could very well not be around in 2014, the final year of their current deals. So whatever the cap hit of Wallace would wind up being in 2014, should be easily affordable, as too should be the cap hits of both Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders, both of whom I think the Steelers can easily retain if they so desire.

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...ative/11272831

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    With DeCastro in tow, Steelers turn to Wallace

    Tue Jul 24, 2012
    By Mike Bires



    Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace, center, isn't quite on Jerry Rice's pace but he's still the best deep threat in the NFL.

    Now that all their drafts picks are signed, the Steelers can concentrate their efforts on Mike Wallace.

    The team leader last year in receptions, touchdown catches and receiving yards, Wallace is the only unsigned Steeler. He can’t practice at training camp until he signs.

    All Steelers under contract must report to camp at St. Vincent College in Latrobe on Wednesday.

    Wallace does have a $2.7 million tender he received months ago as a restricted free agent. But he’s yet to sign that tender because he wants a long-term, multi-million deal what would put him among the NFL’s highest-paid wide receivers.

    As Steelers’ negotiators and Wallace’s agent continue to hammer out a new deal, there’s a good chance Wallace will hold out of training camp. This past spring, he skipped all 10 of the voluntary organized team activities and boycotted the three-day minicamp because he’s not satisfied with the tender offer.

    Wallace became the final unsigned Steelers after the team signed first-round draft pick David DeCastro on Monday.

    The All-American guard out of Stanford, agreed to a four-year contract with an option year. DeCastro, 22, who will be paid $7.8 million over four years, will start immediately for the Steelers.

    DeCastro agreed to terms shortly after Detroit tackle Riley Reiff signed a four-year, $8 million deal. Reiff was the 23rd pick, one before DeCastro. Also signing Monday was Dallas cornerback Morris Claiborne, who was the sixth pick.

    As of 6 p.m. Monday, there were only seven first-round picks still unsigned: running back Trent Richardson, Browns (3); tackle Matt Kalil, Vikings (4); wide receiver Justin Blackmon, Jaguars (5); quarterback Ryan Tannehill, Dolphins 8 nose tackle Dontari Poe, Chiefs (11); wide receiver Kendall Wright, Titans (20); and quarterback Brandon Weeden, Browns (22).

    http://www.timesonline.com/sports/st...9dd1ecb1a.html

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