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Thread: Roethlisberger: Niners were overly aggressive with injured ankle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    But when you've been able to make magic happen by extending the play, it's a lot harder to do that for a competitor like Ben. He's done it so often that it's hard to tell him he can't or shouldn't.
    That magic isn't happening as often as he ages. It becomes more difficult to heal from injuries that he sustains as he ages. It's seems like commons sense to play smarter. If people are ok with in injured Ben, fine. I'd rather see a as healthy as possible Ben playing in games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    And the minute he does that? People will complain and say Ben's afraid of being hit, Ben's gun shy, etc.

    He is what he is, the Steelers [and some dimwitted stuck in the 70's fans] can either accept that, or do him a favor and send him on his way.
    People are going to complain no matter what. What's best for this team is Ben being as healthy as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    That magic isn't happening as often as he ages. It becomes more difficult to heal from injuries that he sustains as he ages. It's seems like commons sense to play smarter. If people are ok with in injured Ben, fine. I'd rather see a as healthy as possible Ben playing in games.
    The problem is that elite athletes don't get that message until it's forced upon them. Heck, Evander Holyfield still thinks he can be Heavyweight Champ again. Part of that is because he's overcome the odds enough times to be able to do it.

    Ben has been able to make that crucial play by making things happen enough times that I don't know that anyone will be able to tell him he can't until he's either forced to retire or really does become gunshy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCrazy View Post
    Tomlin stated he opted to run that Defense in Denver and also said he would do it again if given the option. Ben played well in the '05 playoffs, but it was our D that got us the ring. LeBeau can only play who he is given. Apparently the front office felt Farrior was the best option. Who would you have started in the middle? Foote?
    Once again LeBeau has no responsibility for anything. The head coach made him do it. The GM didn't get him the players. Just more LeBeau excuses. The reality is that the guy quit innovating years ago and has been putting out the same template for the past several years. We got to the QB less last year than in the past 5-6 years and we saw no adjustments. The "father of the zone blitz" has forgotten what a blitz is except to send one of the two OLBs that most of us can anticipate with a 80% accuracy when and who is coming. He has been fortunate to have experienced veterans who carried him because they had been in the system for so long but now it is time to pay the piper.

    Young players are going to have to play significant roles and they won't have three years of watching under their belts. Adjustments are going to have to be made. We'll see how that works, but I'm sure it will be Tomlin's fault, Colbert's fault or anybody but LeBeau's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    People are going to complain no matter what. What's best for this team is Ben being as healthy as possible.
    NO, what's best for this team is to actually VALUE Ben, VALUE his receivers, and realize it's 2012 and not 1975.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    NO, what's best for this team is to actually VALUE Ben, VALUE his receivers, and realize it's 2012 and not 1975.
    Truer words never were said on this board. This is not 1975 Western Pa HS football. The league has changed and is NEEVER going back. Ben is our most important player...PERIOD!!!!!

    The days of winning with defense are over. You have to be able to score and score alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    NO, what's best for this team is to actually VALUE Ben, VALUE his receivers, and realize it's 2012 and not 1975.
    The team obviously values Ben. They are not going to break the bank on WR's. IMO, WR's are below the defense in regard to winning games. Defense is still the back bone of this team. Ben hasn't shown the consistency to carry the team offensively. His sometimes unintelligent, inconsistent play is a one reason. His inability to throw for enough TD's is another reason. Ben's best is good enough. He doesn't display his best play on a consistent enough basis.

    Guess you don't understand regarding Ben becoming a smarter player. If you are happy with Ben limping around the field, so be it. He was injured last season in Cleveland because of a poor decision on the field. A more intelligent QB would had thrown the ball away under that circumstance and lived to play another play.

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    No, he was injured against Cleveland because we had 7 guys blocking and still gave up a sack when the great David Johnson whiffed his block, we had TWO receivers running pass patterns, and then his safety valve Heath Miller was hit by his own guy.

    Ben is plenty consistent. Look at his career home/road splits.

    Ben didn't throw for enough TDs last season because we get too worried about running the ball in the red zone.

    You want to turn Ben into Carson Palmer? Trade him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    It's real easy to target an ankle when you wear a different color shoe. WTF was that about?
    JFC really?

    He wore a shoe that was BIGGER than his actual size because it was taped and had a brace in it. They didn't have the same colored shoe in that size of his normal shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    No, he was injured against Cleveland because we had 7 guys blocking and still gave up a sack when the great David Johnson whiffed his block, we had TWO receivers running pass patterns, and then his safety valve Heath Miller was hit by his own guy.

    Ben is plenty consistent. Look at his career home/road splits.

    Ben didn't throw for enough TDs last season because we get too worried about running the ball in the red zone.

    You want to turn Ben into Carson Palmer? Trade him.
    Johnson didn't whiff on his block. They gave up the sack because Ben held the ball too long on a designed roll out. Ben was out of the pocket. He had the option to throw the ball away if the WR's down field were covered.

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