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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete
    1995-3rd in yds/g -9th in pts allowed
    1996-2nd in yds/g -4th in pts allowed
    2004-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2005-4th in yds/g -3rd in pts allowed
    2006-9th in yds/g -11th in pts allowed
    2007-1st in yds/g -2nd in pts allowed
    2008-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2009-5th in yds/g -12th in pts allowed
    2010-2nd in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2011-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    4x the #1 ranked defense in yds per game
    4x the #1 ranked defense in points allowed
    I dare anyone to go look up offensive statistics
    Defense has never been this teams problem
    These are Lebeaus rankings as DC for the Steelers
    Defense has kept this team competitive and near the top over the last 2 decades.
    How people can constantly blame the defense and Lebeau is a joke.
    You say Defense is not a problem even after Denver game? Steelers Defense got tebowed. 4thQ Defense is still a problem.Steelers Defense rarely made any splash plays or TO last season.

    Steelers have way too much money invested on Defense.Time for ARII to spend money on his offense for a change.
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    You are talking about 1 game
    1 playoff game and years of defense goes out the window.
    Cmon please
    Tebowed,wtf is Tebowed?
    Our offense had the ball at midfield with plenty of time to kick the winning FG and what happened?
    Ike was solid all year and had a brainfart in Denver.
    Everyone said the way to beat Denver was play man.
    We did and we got burnt by bad play from our corners.
    If we would have sat back and played like we did against Alex Smith and the Niners the defense would've been ridiculed also.
    We had four starters missing from the lineup at different parts of the game,Harrison was getting double teamed and chipped on every play and besides Troy nobody on defense showed any kind of spark.
    1 playoff game doesnt negate a decades worth of solid defense does it?

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Before we get too stuck in on who should we draft- Offense or Defense, consider this...


    The 2nd oldest under contract Offensive player is....?

    Anyone?

    Ben. At 30.

    The Offense is a young unit, filled with up & coming players in all positions- outside of QB.

    The average starting Defense age is 32. This group will get old & need replacing as the young Offensive players start hitting their peak.

    It's Defense that needs investment in the future.

    The Offense probably needs a FA OG more than a rookie.
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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete
    You are talking about 1 game
    1 playoff game and years of defense goes out the window.
    Cmon please
    Tebowed,wtf is Tebowed?
    Our offense had the ball at midfield with plenty of time to kick the winning FG and what happened?
    Ike was solid all year and had a brainfart in Denver.
    Everyone said the way to beat Denver was play man.
    We did and we got burnt by bad play from our corners.
    If we would have sat back and played like we did against Alex Smith and the Niners the defense would've been ridiculed also.
    We had four starters missing from the lineup at different parts of the game,Harrison was getting double teamed and chipped on every play and besides Troy nobody on defense showed any kind of spark.
    1 playoff game doesnt negate a decades worth of solid defense does it?

    Steelers Defense is great no doubt but the money Steelers are spending on their D it better be good. I don't trust Steelers D to make a stop at crucial juncture.
    I have seen way too many long drives given by this Steelers D.


    Steelers offense scored 23 points and Defense failed to protect that. I mean Tim Tebow schooled Steelers Defense.

    Why there is no mention of injuries on Offense? Steelers O-line is always playing musical chairs but we expect Steelers offense to score 35 points/game.

    I think its time for Steelers FO to change their mindset. Cut the veterans on D and splash money on Offense and O-line this off season.
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Cut the veterans on D and splash money on Offense and O-line this off season.
    I don't disagree with this statement and believe it will happen
    Wallace will be signed and O-line will be addressed through the draft.
    Hopefully our new O-coordinator can put the talent we have in the right positions to succeed.

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete
    Cut the veterans on D and splash money on Offense and O-line this off season.
    I don't disagree with this statement and believe it will happen
    Wallace will be signed and O-line will be addressed through the draft.
    Hopefully our new O-coordinator can put the talent we have in the right positions to succeed.

    I want a dominating Defense and efficient offense (not scoring tons of points in garbage time and padding stats).

    About time Steelers cut few veteran players on both side of the ball and get young. Draft big uglies in this draft.
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    Before we get too stuck in on who should we draft- Offense or Defense, consider this...


    The 2nd oldest under contract Offensive player is....?

    Anyone?

    Ben. At 30.

    The Offense is a young unit, filled with up & coming players in all positions- outside of QB.

    The average starting Defense age is 32. This group will get old & need replacing as the young Offensive players start hitting their peak.

    It's Defense that needs investment in the future.

    The Offense probably needs a FA OG more than a rookie.
    Steelers already have tons of money invested on Defense. I agree Offense has young players and will hit their peak in coming years but what about O-line? Steelers have 2 starters right now. Gilbert and pouncey (often injured).

    Colon has not played in 2 years. Starks will have his ACL surgery. Not sure when he will be back and in game shape.

    Steelers are over 25 million in salary cap. Not sure how they can sign a decent FA OG.

    ARII needs to start investing on O-line and it should be his highest priority this off season.

    I am for drafting Defense but not in early rounds. A defensive player takes 2-3 years to start seeing the field. Draft those players in mid-late rounds.

    Also i am not a big fan of drafting a D-lineman in Rd 1 if he is going to occupy two blockers. Now if Poe is another Ngata i will jump over him in the draft else i would pass.
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    Before we get too stuck in on who should we draft- Offense or Defense, consider this...


    The 2nd oldest under contract Offensive player is....?

    Anyone?

    Ben. At 30.

    The Offense is a young unit, filled with up & coming players in all positions- outside of QB.

    The average starting Defense age is 32. This group will get old & need replacing as the young Offensive players start hitting their peak.

    It's Defense that needs investment in the future.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    The Offense probably needs a FA OG more than a rookie.
    A top-flight FA guard would be great, but at $20 million over the cap, I don't expect us to make much of a play in that arena. We're probably going to have to do the best we can in the draft.

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete
    You are talking about 1 game
    1 playoff game and years of defense goes out the window.
    Cmon please
    Tebowed,wtf is Tebowed?
    Our offense had the ball at midfield with plenty of time to kick the winning FG and what happened?
    Ike was solid all year and had a brainfart in Denver.
    Everyone said the way to beat Denver was play man.
    We did and we got burnt by bad play from our corners.
    If we would have sat back and played like we did against Alex Smith and the Niners the defense would've been ridiculed also.
    We had four starters missing from the lineup at different parts of the game,Harrison was getting double teamed and chipped on every play and besides Troy nobody on defense showed any kind of spark.
    1 playoff game doesnt negate a decades worth of solid defense does it?
    as he's shown. tebow is not accurate at all in his short game.
    if anything, throwing the ball long was his only chance.

    its a lot easier to get lucky on a long ball here and there then it is to actually drive down the field with the way he throws the ball

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    we've already inverted the young player on the defense. they're already on the roster

    worldis, carter, hood, heyward (timmons and woodley hitting their prime years)

    allen, brown... mcclendon\

    thats almost a whole defensive unit

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