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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by aggiebones
    We are drafting a NT or G in the first round, most likely.

    We had a good defensive season. The final loss was partly due to Keisel and Hampton missing the second half due to abnormal injuries. Clark missing the whole game due to Sickle cell. And Deebo having his worst game in 3 seasons. Yea he's over 30, but didn't use alot of tread early in his career.

    We need to replace Farrior, NT and G ASAP.
    The rest are solid. We can't have all-pros at every position in this era.
    Who said anything about having all-pros at every position? In general, with our D, I'm more concerned with having someone who can step in and play "above the line" in case a starter gets hurt, and who will eventually be able to take over as a starter (although, as I said, when it comes to LB's, we need to have playmakers). The more +30-year-olds you have, the more you have to start thinking about this... even if they don't have a lot of "tread" on them, as they age, their bodies become more prone to break down and it takes longer for them to recover from injuries.

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    Get our front seven back to form. Get back to being able to punish opponents with a consistent between the tackles ground game. Add some ballhawk turnover intensity in the secondary and the ability to score three touchdowns passing without struggling mightily to do so,....and we're good to go.
    1) Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington

    2) Miles Burris, LB San Diego State

    3) Jordan White, WR, WMU

    4) Mychal Kendricks, LB, Cal

    5) Blake Gideon, F/S, Texas

    6) Matt Conrath, DE, VA

    7) Adam Nissley, TE, UCF

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dresden
    Get our front seven back to form. Get back to being able to punish opponents with a consistent between the tackles ground game. Add some ballhawk turnover intensity in the secondary and the ability to score three touchdowns passing without struggling mightily to do so,....and we're good to go.


    Well said...

    Rockon

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    IMO, even though the Steeler defense was ranked number one this past year I never had the feeling that they were that dominant to the point that I felt comfortable with a lead and the opponent with the ball late in the game.

    The offense was what it was, very, very inconsistent for all the reasons that have been mentioned ad infinitum.

    Both sides of the ball need to be addressed this year and, hopefully, with a player or two that can have an immediate impact or at least come in and play at a high enough level that the Steelers can allow him to play and learn without detriment to the team.

    Offense and defense need players, this would be a great year to hit a homerun.

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    when has the front seven not been the strength of this team?
    for the last 5 years (maybe more) they've been our best unit


    and in that time, we've drafted back ups to the older starters with two #1 picks and a mid 2nd rounder

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletfire1970
    All this talk about the offense, what are we going to do to improve the defense? We have no pass rush, our secondary is exposed. The defense is just as big of a problem as the offense. Don't give me the #1 defense stat. If they play like they did last year in 2012, trust me, they will be no where near #1. They were a product of a great schedule playing teams that had mostly mediocre at best QBs. Flacco went 90+ yards to win the division deciding game. And we won't get into what Tebow did to them in our one and done playoff game. The only impressive game they had was against the Pats.
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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER
    when has the front seven not been the strength of this team?
    for the last 5 years (maybe more) they've been our best unit


    and in that time, we've drafted back ups to the older starters with two #1 picks and a mid 2nd rounder
    And that's a good start, but we need to keep on keeping on in order to fill the spots left by all the older players who will be heading out the door in the next year or two (Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Farrior, Foote, etc.).

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Ovideo, you forgot a few
    Though shalt settle for FGs when in the redzone
    Though shalt turn the ball over as many times as possible throughout the year
    Though shalt never put away teams in the 4th quarter to keep the defense on its toes
    Though shalt realize that DL is a hall of fame coordinator and means more to this team then all the coaches combined in the last 5 years

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    Re: Offense? What about Defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser
    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER
    when has the front seven not been the strength of this team?
    for the last 5 years (maybe more) they've been our best unit


    and in that time, we've drafted back ups to the older starters with two #1 picks and a mid 2nd rounder
    And that's a good start, but we need to keep on keeping on in order to fill the spots left by all the older players who will be heading out the door in the next year or two (Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Farrior, Foote, etc.).
    the last 2 years (except for maybe hampton last year) were average players. they were all past their prime in that time span and the defense was still among the best in the NFL.

    it shouldnt be that hard the replace the production they had in those years

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    1995-3rd in yds/g -9th in pts allowed
    1996-2nd in yds/g -4th in pts allowed
    2004-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2005-4th in yds/g -3rd in pts allowed
    2006-9th in yds/g -11th in pts allowed
    2007-1st in yds/g -2nd in pts allowed
    2008-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2009-5th in yds/g -12th in pts allowed
    2010-2nd in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    2011-1st in yds/g -1st in pts allowed
    4x the #1 ranked defense in yds per game
    4x the #1 ranked defense in points allowed
    I dare anyone to go look up offensive statistics
    Defense has never been this teams problem
    These are Lebeaus rankings as DC for the Steelers
    Defense has kept this team competitive and near the top over the last 2 decades.
    How people can constantly blame the defense and Lebeau is a joke.

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