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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    Um, I hate to be a stick in the mud but shouldn't this be in the General Discussion area instead of the Steelers area?

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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    This is just sick. I read part of Grand Jury Testimony and its disgusting. Sandusky is a piece of ****. I can't believe PSU allowed this pedophile on campus.

    Whats more sickening is that Sandusky guy adopted 4-6 children. I can't imagine what would have happened to them.

    Also i am disapppointed in PSU students.They are rioting in favor of Joe Pa WTF. PSU reputation took a big hit today and rightly so.
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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    I think 99% of the fans who are defending Joe are actually defending the "myth" of JoePa and PSU and not the actual event. I don't think anyone is defending sex with a child...


    It's sick as hell though... this is new territory for a college.

    Too many men witnessed too many things for this to stay covered up for so long.

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    It is time to fall out of love with the legend...

    Anything good that people could say about Paterno has been wiped out...
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    When I turned my life over to the Lord it was at that point that I came to realize that men will always let you down. We can put them high up on a pedestal ( a position of high regard or adoration), and think of them as great but it is their nature to do wrong. "But as for me and my household, we serve the Lord" (Joshua 24: 15).
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz
    I think 99% of the fans who are defending Joe are actually defending the "myth" of JoePa and PSU and not the actual event. I don't think anyone is defending sex with a child...


    It's sick as hell though... this is new territory for a college.

    Too many men witnessed too many things for this to stay covered up for so long.

    The problem is the perception, this isn't sex with children it's child rape. One imply's consent. The myth/legend of Joe Paterno that these kids are protesting for was used to cover up the rape of children IMO NO ONE should be trying to protect THAT!

    Pennsyl-Tucky at it's 17th century best! Wait until you see how little time this monster gets! Drug dealers get more time that these sicko's, watch and see he will get like 7-10 years at most when he should really be shot!

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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    Quote Originally Posted by _SteeL_CurtaiN_
    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz
    I think 99% of the fans who are defending Joe are actually defending the "myth" of JoePa and PSU and not the actual event. I don't think anyone is defending sex with a child...


    It's sick as hell though... this is new territory for a college.

    Too many men witnessed too many things for this to stay covered up for so long.

    The problem is the perception, this isn't sex with children it's child rape. One imply's consent. The myth/legend of Joe Paterno that these kids are protesting for was used to cover up the rape of children IMO NO ONE should be trying to protect THAT!

    Pennsyl-Tucky at it's 17th century best! Wait until you see how little time this monster gets! Drug dealers get more time that these sicko's, watch and see he will get like 7-10 years at most when he should really be shot!
    He won't last long in prison. Fellow inmates don't take kindly to pedophiles. And this isn't some white collar crime where he gets sent to Club Fed. General population...have at him. Whatever time he has left on earth will be a miserable existance. Not that it takes away any of the pain and anguish from those kids and their families that he was responsible for.

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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher

    He won't last long in prison. Fellow inmates don't take kindly to pedophiles. And this isn't some white collar crime where he gets sent to Club Fed. General population...have at him. Whatever time he has left on earth will be a miserable existance. Not that it takes away any of the pain and anguish from those kids and their families that he was responsible for.
    Since I know a lot about prison let me chime in. He will never see general population. He will be placed into protective custody for two reasons. One he is a child molester, and two he is a high profile case. He will be placed into a security housing unit (SHU), and have lock down 23 hours every day with 1 hour for rec (alone), and shower (alone). There is no institution in this country that is going to allow for him to be in general population.
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    Re: OT: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno

    Reports: Jerry Sandusky had access

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    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, who has been indicted on charges of sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years, had access to the team's weight room as recently as last week, according to reports.

    Joe Paterno and Penn State officials were faced with a critical choice about damning information and chose to protect the program. This is what power has become. This is what power has always been, writes ESPN.com's Howard Bryant. Story

    The Penn State community is angered and hurt by allegations of sexual abuse of children -- and stunned that coaches and officials failed to report it, writes ESPN.com's Dana O'Neil. Story

    There's a question hanging over the Penn State football program: What did Joe Paterno know about allegations of sexual abuse against Jerry Sandusky and when did he know it? There are no good answers, writes ESPN.com's Jeff MacGregor. Story

    The report came just hours before coach Joe Paterno was scheduled to hold his first news conference since his former protege was arrested Saturday on 40 criminal counts of child sex abuse. The news conference was abruptly canceled by the university Tuesday.

    Paterno's son, Scott, said his father was prepared to answer questions, but university president Graham Spanier's office made the decision not to go forward with it.

    Meanwhile, the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, which ran a front-page editorial calling for Spanier to step aside, or have the board of trustees push him out, reported Tuesday that a man has come forward claiming to be a victim of alleged sexual abuse by Sandusky.

    The male, now in his mid-20s, according to the report, told state police that he was victimized at Penn State's football facilities.

    Authorities have said that Paterno, who testified in the grand jury proceedings that led to the charges, is not a target of the investigation. But the state police commissioner has chastised him and other school officials for not doing enough to try to stop the suspected abuse.

    A person familiar with Sandusky's relationship with Penn State told The Associated Press that the former coach long maintained an office in the East Area Locker building which is across the street from the Penn State football team's building, and was on campus as recently as week ago working out.

    The university's online directory listed Sandusky, whom Penn State officials said was banned from campus over the weekend -- as an assistant professor emeritus of physical education in the Lasch building. Sandusky was Paterno's longtime defensive coordinator and one-time heir apparent.

    The grand jury investigating Sandusky found that he was given the office, a parking pass and other amenities as part of his 1999 retirement package.

    Such details, along with a front-page call by the Patriot-News for this season to be Paterno's last, would have made the news conference unlike any other for the famed coach.

    "There are the obligations we all have to uphold the law. There are then the obligations we all have to do what is right," the editorial board wrote about Penn State President Graham Spanier's role in the sex abuse scandal, along with Paterno's.

    The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, in an editorial, called on Paterno and Penn State president Graham Spanier to both resign, too.

    Patriot-News writer Sara Ganim says the alleged victims of Jerry Sandusky are feeling betrayed because their stories were not believed immediately.

    Pennsylvania state police commissioner Frank Noonan said Monday in Harrisburg that Paterno fulfilled his legal requirement when he relayed to university administrators that a graduate assistant had seen Sandusky attacking a young boy in the team's locker room shower in 2002. But the commissioner also questioned whether Paterno had a moral responsibility to do more.

    "Somebody has to question about what I would consider the moral requirements for a human being that knows of sexual things that are taking place with a child," Noonan said.

    "I think you have the moral responsibility, anyone. Not whether you're a football coach or a university president or the guy sweeping the building. I think you have a moral responsibility to call us."

    Sandusky was prohibited from holding youth sports camps on campus in 2002, but continued to hold them through 2008 under his Sandusky Associates company at the university's Behrend campus, just outside Erie.

    "We provided the facilities for it," Behrend spokesman Bill Gonda said Monday. "There were no allegations, no complaints during his tenure here."

    Sandusky also operated football camps at Penn State Capital College in Middletown, Robert Morris University and Muhlenberg College, among others, according to his website, which is now offline.

    The camp was aimed at students from fourth grade through high school and offered personal attention and coaching from Sandusky.

    State College has been consumed by the scandal since Sandusky, once revered as the architect of the "Linebacker U." defenses, was charged over the weekend. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley -- Paterno's boss -- and senior vice president Gary Schultz have stepped down, and they surrendered Monday in Harrisburg on charges of perjury and that they failed to alert police about abuse complaints.

    Lawyers for Sandusky, Curley and Schultz have said their clients are innocent. Paterno, in a statement Sunday issued by his son, Scott, said he was shocked and saddened by the allegations.

    "If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers," Paterno said in the statement.

    But State College has always been different, where the program boasts the slogan "Success with Honor."

    "Can they say 'Success with Honor' anymore?" asked Rebecca Durst, owner of Rinaldo's Barber Shop, a fixture in State College since 1926.

    At a news conference, Noonan and state Attorney General Linda Kelly were peppered with questions about whether Paterno was given details about what graduate assistant Mike McQueary -- now the team's wide receivers coach -- saw on the night of March 1, 2002.

    Paterno has referred to his grand jury testimony in which he testified that he was informed by a graduate assistant that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of the team locker room. Prosecutors have said Paterno passed on the information to Curley.

    But Paterno said specific actions alleged to have occurred in the grand jury report were not relayed to him.

    "It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the grand jury report," Paterno said in the statement. "Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators."

    Paterno has won 409 games, the Division I record, along with two national titles. He has an impeccable record of focusing on academics as well as athletics -- it's the Penn State library, not an athletic building, that is named for Paterno and his wife Sue.

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    very disappointed that I'm associated with this
    I've been thinking about this for a while, and your post sort of clarified something for me.

    I'm not a Penn State alum, but my Dad is. Based on that, and the fact that I grew up in Pittsburgh, I am a rock-ribbed Penn State & Steeler fan. To this day, now living in SW Ohio, our routine is this: we watch the Penn State game on Saturday, and the Steelers on Sunday. But successful football programs are not the only reason why I am such a devout fan of these two entities. I truly believe that Penn State University & the Pittsburgh Steelers are different than all of their competitors. They are different because they possess & represent class, and consistency, and loyalty, and respect, and humility, and dignity, and an expectation of achievement. All of these characteristics are not a by-product of their success, but the SOURCE of their success.

    Many people are now saying that attaching any of those attributes to Penn State is a lie.

    Their is NO DISPUTING the grievous nature of the crimes that took place there, by men who worked for and represented the university. The individual men who are responsible for this, and I include Joe Paterno, will not receive the punishment they deserve on this earth. I will follow Dee Dub's lead on this and put out a scripture, Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 18, verse 6.

    But ultimately, Jerry Sandusky is NOT Penn State; neither is Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, Mike McQueary, etc. They were only in Penn State's employ, and they failed miserably in holding up the virtues of a great institution.

    The REAL Penn State is the tens of thousands of alumni, the current student body (minus a few idiots), the former players, and the faculty who LIVE OUT EVERY DAY the qualities I listed earlier, by their hard work, their devotion to their family and friends, their stability, their respect for others, and their belief in doing the right thing. People like my Dad.

    The university will overcome this, and will continue to be the beacon it has been in the past, because REAL Penn Staters will make sure that this current situation is addressed as it should have been more than a decade ago.


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