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    If China becomes a world super power, great. It can be better for us in the long term too. It's not like the standard of living went down in Europe after the US became the leading world economy. They benefited from our success just like we will China and others.

    If we believe in unions and accepting high wages for simple manufacturing jobs, we deserve to lose these jobs to open competition. Worldwide competition will only make products better in the long run. And the people who lose their jobs have to adapt. Those that do are wildly successful. Those that don't struggle. Sucks for them, but it's a net benefit to everyone overall.

    Eventually emerging markets will have labor laws similar to ours. We're already moving closer to becoming European by the minute as we raise taxes and provide more and more benefits to our elderly and out of work folks, move toward universal health care, etc.

    If you were European you might look at the US with disdain wondering how a civilized people can live without universal health care. Europeans view health care as a human right. We kinda look like a 3rd world country in some regards. It's next to impossible to fire someone in a European country. And they pay people unemployment benefits that nearly match their employed wages, so the average worker over there is content and not busting their chops to keep their jobs. This is eerily similar to the average US union employee.

    In a poor country, people would jump through hoops to have a chance to make a fraction of what US union employees make. Why not take advantage of that and view it as an opportunity to grow America? Harder workers for a fraction of the cost sounds like a win to me. It works better in some industries than others.

    WHen the emerging markets implement beauracracy and laws, they will become more like the US and Europe and Japan. And more success around the world will mean less money the US has to invest outside of our borders and the more of the world burden these countries will share. And new markets will always emerge.

    It's a net win for us all in the long term. The tough issues you've mentioned are only short lived. And the people harmed are those that can't/won't adapt. For everyone else it's more opportunity, not less.

    And the tradeoff of losing a couple jobs in the US for the sake of gaining more outside the US and lifting the worldwide standard of living is a good one imho. I don't see it as the US versus the world. I see it as all of us being part of humanity and lets make the decisions that have the biggest impact on everyone - not just Americans.

    Making decisions in the best interest of the world population is what will keep the US in a leadership position in worldwide economics anyway and it will improve our relations around the world lessening the resentment toward the US and the justification for groups like al Queida.

    We're probably not far apart on our thinking. I think the differences we're talking about here are short versus long term impact. And I'm in total agreement the short term can suck for people.

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    Are people blaming outsourcing for economic recession?? Subprime Mortgage and Oil were the main reasons for the economic recession.

    Outsourcing did not start in 2008. Blame it on greedy corporates for not following the rules and regulations (if there were any). If they had done their due diligence in giving mortgages we would not be in this recession.

    Housing has always been the engine which took country out of recession but this time housing market is still down and out hence there is a possibility of double dip recession.

    Unless Warren Buffet comes out and tells me outsourcing is the reason for economic recession or job market being bad i ain't believing any of tht stuff.
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    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
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    Chadman, find me a politician who is not a crook. They don't exist. I didn't read your articles. and I probably won't. I'm working on my semesters final projects so I'm too busy right now.. and no doubt, I'll forget about them soon. Hopefully they were good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
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    Chadman, find me a politician who is not a crook. They don't exist. I didn't read your articles. and I probably won't. I'm working on my semesters final projects so I'm too busy right now.. and no doubt, I'll forget about them soon. Hopefully they were good.


    I'm sure you are probably not missing much by not reading them.

    They are interesting, in a connect-the-dots kind of way. Hopefully you kick your semester projects in the butt.

    And you are right- most politicians have skeletons in the closet.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz
    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Liberals save big business MORE money by allowing them to move their companies to a third world country so 10 year old kids can work for a dollar a day. At least the Republicans kept the jobs here.


    You can't be serious? Big business doesn't care about libs and cons.. It's a global economy and cheap labor will always sway businesses to leave.
    Yea especially when you don't have to pay a tariff. We sign NAFTA, everything moves to Mexico (just ask Pittsburgh after wards and how the 90's saw their business move). Then we sign a free trade agreement with China in the 90's. Now you can't even get drywall made in the US. though the companies claim to be US companies. Now we sign an agreement with Korea and guess what....
    sure we had businesses that were based overseas. but guess what, they had to pay a tariff which helped OUR businesses and kept them here. Now you can't by a Camaro that was even partially manufactured in the US.
    Do you also give credit to Bill Clinton for the economy in the 90s and blame Bush for it in 2000's? If you do, PM me and I can give you a lesson.
    You need to put the kool-aid down. NAFTA was going to happen regardless of who the president was at the time.

    I don't blame one president and give excuses for the next one... they are all pushing the same agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
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    Chadman, find me a politician who is not a crook. They don't exist. I didn't read your articles. and I probably won't. I'm working on my semesters final projects so I'm too busy right now.. and no doubt, I'll forget about them soon. Hopefully they were good.


    I'm sure you are probably not missing much by not reading them.

    They are interesting, in a connect-the-dots kind of way. Hopefully you kick your semester projects in the butt.

    And you are right- most politicians have skeletons in the closet.
    so now he can't read? LOL...

    Anytime 15 of 19 hijackers or terrorist are from Country A.... and we end up invading country B, C and D you know it's shady business.
    I lost a bet about Najee gaining 1300 yards.

    "Our head coach has failed to win a playoff game for seven years in a row. His game day strategy, culture of divas, in game decisions, clock management, player evaluation, hires, and affinity with sub par starters at RB, P, and OL are holding the Steelers back. That standard remains the standard"



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