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    Lolley's Final 53

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    With two games under their belt, things are starting to mesh out for the Steelers in terms of what their 53-man roster is going to look like.

    There have been a few surprises and it won't be an easy cut for this team to trim away 27 players.

    Here's what I think it will look like in the end:

    QBs (3): Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, Dennis Dixon: Charlie Batch will be released, but if Leftwich or Dixon are injured while Roethlisberger is serving his suspension, help will be but a phone call away.

    RBs (4): Rashard Mendenhall, Mewelde Moore, Isaac Redman, Frank Summers: Summers over Dwayne Wright is the toughest cut here. Redman truly earned his spot on this team.

    WRs (6): Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antwaan Randle El, Arnaz Battle, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders. The play of rookie receivers Brown and Sanders has been one of the bright spots on the summer. Battle is an excellent special teams player and this team has to keep six receivers around because Ward looks to be slipping some.

    TEs (3): Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth, David Johnson. Not a real tough cut here, but Eugene Bright could end up on the practice squad.

    OL (9): Max Starks, Chris Kemoeatu, Trai Essex, Flozell Adams, Maurkice Pouncey, Doug Legursky, Jonathan Scott, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills. It almost looks like the light has come on for Hills. Essex looks very good in the run game, as does Adams. If Justin Hartwig doesn't hold off Pouncey - and I don't believe he will - it's a good bet he'll be gone. Dorian Brooks and Kraig Urbik could be practice squad material.

    Defensive line (7): Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Chris Hoke, Ziggy Hood, Nick Eason, Doug Worthington. After showing plenty of hunger last year, Sunny Harris hasn't shown much this summer. Worthington looks like a keeper. Eason had a solid all-around game last week against the Giants.

    LB (9): James Harrison, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, LaMarr Woodley, Jason Worilds, Thaddeus Gibson, Larry Foote, Stevenson Sylvester, Keyaron Fox. This is a tough position to cut as well. Renauld Williams has flashed at times and Patrick Bailey is a former team rookie of the year and special teams ace.

    DBs (9): Ike Taylor, Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Bryant McFadden, Keenan Lewis, Joe Burnett, Will Allen, Ryan Mundy, William Gay. The Steelers take a chance that they can sneak Crezdon Butler onto the practice squad. It's tough to cut Anthony Madison, but he gets exposed every time he plays in the base defense, even when playing against second and third-team players.

    Specialists (3): Jeff Reed, Daniel Sepulveda, Greg Warren. No explanation needed.

    So there it is. Have at it. It's not an easy cut at many positions, speaking to the depth this team has acquired. The past two draft classes - I include rookie free agents in that - have been very solid and have really improved this team's bench.
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    WRs (6): Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antwaan Randle El, Arnaz Battle, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders. The play of rookie receivers Brown and Sanders has been one of the bright spots on the summer. Battle is an excellent special teams player and this team has to keep six receivers around because Ward looks to be slipping some.
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    I believe that Ben won't count against the 53 man total until he returns in October. One more guy could be kept for at least the first month of the season, and you'd have to make a decision about which one guy to cut when Ben makes his return.

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    I think both Urbik and Hills make the Final 53 at the expense of Legursky. I'm beginning to wonder if Adams is a lock or not.

    No way do I keep Johnson over McHugh. Johnson offers nothing as a TE capable of receiving the ball which is what your #3 needs to be able to do in the event of an injury to Spaeth or Miller. I think we need major production this season out of our TE position for the following reasons:

    1. During the first 4 games if Lefty is QB he will be looking to get rid of the ball fast due to lack of mobility. TE is critical
    2. Hines is missing soimething this season and could have a very down season by his normal standards. TE has to pick up the difference because Wallace will still be developing.

    Johnson offers nothing in the receiving game.
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    Looks pretty clean for the most part.

    I have a sneaky feeling they keep Urbik one more season. Yeas, I know some don't want him anymore, but just a weird feeling about him and next year's OL. I think there are SEVERAL bums that get shoved out the door after this season. They will be forced to keep multiple extra Ts due to not knowing how the position will shake out. But all will be likely shown the door if we use a high pick on a T next draft. Then they'll want Urbik. I also don't think he can sit on PS anymore, but not sure of the rules exactly anymore.

    Summers, I'd be surprised after seeing him whiff BADLY again last game. Can't keep his eyes open when blocking. Not sure if they keep Wright, pick someone else up off waivers since there's always FBs cut late. Or if they use DJohnson/Redman when they really need a FB. If they find a Kreider type guy like we've had in the past where they are REALLY good at blpcking, then they will keep a FB. But its foolish to keep a mediocre FB which is what Summers aspires to be, since right now he's not even mediocre.

    Otherwise, I agree with the rest and this is really just nitpicky. Last few slots could go a few ways depending on any slight injuries forcing us to keep guys til healing occurs.

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    no mention of logan so i assume he is cut? he doesnt play a position except for returner. i love antonio brown so far and think he was the steal that i thought dwyer was going to be. both brown and sanders look great!! logan was a huge upgrade last season returning kicks but he wasnt good returning punts. brown has amazing speed and seems to have good hands. logan must be horrible at RB if he doesnt even get carry's in the preseason.

    all of a sudden i am really worried about our depth at RB and all of a sudden i love our depth at WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggiebones
    Looks pretty clean for the most part.

    I have a sneaky feeling they keep Urbik one more season. Yeas, I know some don't want him anymore, but just a weird feeling about him and next year's OL. I think there are SEVERAL bums that get shoved out the door after this season. They will be forced to keep multiple extra Ts due to not knowing how the position will shake out. But all will be likely shown the door if we use a high pick on a T next draft. Then they'll want Urbik. I also don't think he can sit on PS anymore, but not sure of the rules exactly anymore.

    Summers, I'd be surprised after seeing him whiff BADLY again last game. Can't keep his eyes open when blocking. Not sure if they keep Wright, pick someone else up off waivers since there's always FBs cut late. Or if they use DJohnson/Redman when they really need a FB. If they find a Kreider type guy like we've had in the past where they are REALLY good at blpcking, then they will keep a FB. But its foolish to keep a mediocre FB which is what Summers aspires to be, since right now he's not even mediocre.

    Otherwise, I agree with the rest and this is really just nitpicky. Last few slots could go a few ways depending on any slight injuries forcing us to keep guys til healing occurs.
    The disadvantage that Urbik has is that he hasn't dressed yet. That would make him eligible for the PS as a 2nd year player.

    One guy to keep in mind if they are still on the fence about Summers is McHugh. He has position versatility to play both FB and TE. That's a fact that also works against Johnson. And Coach Tomlin like guys who can work at more than one spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    I think both Urbik and Hills make the Final 53 at the expense of Legursky. I'm beginning to wonder if Adams is a lock or not.

    No way do I keep Johnson over McHugh. Johnson offers nothing as a TE capable of receiving the ball which is what your #3 needs to be able to do in the event of an injury to Spaeth or Miller. I think we need major production this season out of our TE position for the following reasons:

    1. During the first 4 games if Lefty is QB he will be looking to get rid of the ball fast due to lack of mobility. TE is critical
    2. Hines is missing soimething this season and could have a very down season by his normal standards. TE has to pick up the difference because Wallace will still be developing.

    Johnson offers nothing in the receiving game.
    Note what I said about Urbik above. I do like him. I just think the situation is working against him.

    Note also what I said about McHugh. He brings capability at more than one spot. When you can keep one bench player to cover the action of two players in the NFL, you do it.

    My thinking with Adams is that if they can get equal production out of Scott, they might just keep him over Adams and not waste the time they've invested in Hills when he looks like he's finally getting it. Quite frankly, Hills might not be versatile. But, if Max gets hurt, we'd probably be screwed. Hills is his designated insurance policy. Hills has also improved every year he's been here. Do the Steelers just want to flush 3 training camps worth of work down the drain?

    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    I believe that Ben won't count against the 53 man total until he returns in October. One more guy could be kept for at least the first month of the season, and you'd have to make a decision about which one guy to cut when Ben makes his return.
    I was under the impression that Ben wouldn't count against the final 53 if he was suspended. Maybe he's not if Lolley is including him. If that's the case, it'll be sad to see CB go. I want the Steelers to keep the door open for him to work in the FO or anything he wants to do w/ the org.
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    I agree with BH on Charlie Batch, I know we're not going to have him on the active roster this year but that man has been a consummate pro and will be a good coach one of these days (I think Deshea Townsend would be too).

    We'll see if Legursky makes the final 53, I'm not so sure.
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    I feel very good about our WRs. I was concerned going into camp but not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggiebones
    Looks pretty clean for the most part.

    I have a sneaky feeling they keep Urbik one more season. Yeas, I know some don't want him anymore, but just a weird feeling about him and next year's OL. I think there are SEVERAL bums that get shoved out the door after this season. They will be forced to keep multiple extra Ts due to not knowing how the position will shake out. But all will be likely shown the door if we use a high pick on a T next draft. Then they'll want Urbik. I also don't think he can sit on PS anymore, but not sure of the rules exactly anymore.

    Summers, I'd be surprised after seeing him whiff BADLY again last game. Can't keep his eyes open when blocking. Not sure if they keep Wright, pick someone else up off waivers since there's always FBs cut late. Or if they use DJohnson/Redman when they really need a FB. If they find a Kreider type guy like we've had in the past where they are REALLY good at blpcking, then they will keep a FB. But its foolish to keep a mediocre FB which is what Summers aspires to be, since right now he's not even mediocre.

    Otherwise, I agree with the rest and this is really just nitpicky. Last few slots could go a few ways depending on any slight injuries forcing us to keep guys til healing occurs.
    Yeas, I know some don't want him anymore
    But the "some" that most vociferously don't want him don't matter. Only Kugler, Arians, Tomlin and Colbert matter. Don't see them cutting ties with him this soon especially since he seems to the casual observer to be playing well this preseason.
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