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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    I don't buy Tomlin coming in and having full power to hire and fire his first year. We hired him pretty late if I remember...

    I also don't buy BA being a Ben plea from fired... It sure seems like Pittsburgh reporters frame their stories to fit their fantasies of how the Steelers should be run.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz
    I don't buy Tomlin coming in and having full power to hire and fire his first year. We hired him pretty late if I remember...

    I also don't buy BA being a Ben plea from fired... It sure seems like Pittsburgh reporters frame their stories to fit their fantasies of how the Steelers should be run.
    Agreed- it seems like people are interpreting facts to match their own imaginations.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    would you give a contract extension to someone who hires Arians as the team's OC?
    LMAO! Funny but true IMO!!

    We all know the team will extend coach T soon enough though. Maybe it'll be the day after he fires BA. lol

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Prok
    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    would you give a contract extension to someone who hires Arians as the team's OC?
    LMAO! Funny but true IMO!!

    We all know the team will extend coach T soon enough though. Maybe it'll be the day after he fires BA. lol
    It'd be hilarious if he got extended tomorrow.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    I always agreed with the old Bill Parcells quote about a coach having input in personnel decisions which went something like:

    "If I'm a chef and am gonna be held responsible for how the meal turns out, I wanna be able to go to the store and pick out my own ingredients."

    Tomlin may have been mandated to his first year, but i doubt the Rooneys are forcing Tomlin to keep coaches on his staff today. Tomlin may have listened to Ben, Colbert and the Rooneys' input on whether to keep or fire Arians this off-season but the fact Arians will be our OC this upcoming season was Tomlin's decision.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    I always agreed with the old Bill Parcells quote about a coach having input in personnel decisions which went something like:

    "If I'm a chef and am gonna be held responsible for how the meal turns out, I wanna be able to go to the store and pick out my own ingredients."

    Tomlin may have been mandated to his first year, but i doubt the Rooneys are forcing Tomlin to keep coaches on his staff today. Tomlin may have listened to Ben, Colbert and the Rooneys' input on whether to keep or fire Arians this off-season but the fact Arians will be our OC this upcoming season was Tomlin's decision.
    Tomlin said he was cheap labor when he was hired. He wasn't a hot commodity. He was essentially a black Bill Cowher... most of Steeler Nation said "who is he?" when they were both hired.

    Over time Cowher built up capital... he wasn't calling the shots regarding FO decisions and personell in his first 3 years.

    As far as BA is concerned... the only people who said BA was fired were the ones who wanted him fired outside the organization. Begging Ben pleads for his OC's job after putting up 4500 yards and a RB with 1200... When all he had to do was splice together the 5 leads the D lost in he fourth quarter.

    and I seriously doubt the FO is holding onto unleashing hell as a card they would play in negotiations.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    I always agreed with the old Bill Parcells quote about a coach having input in personnel decisions which went something like:

    "If I'm a chef and am gonna be held responsible for how the meal turns out, I wanna be able to go to the store and pick out my own ingredients."

    Tomlin may have been mandated to his first year, but i doubt the Rooneys are forcing Tomlin to keep coaches on his staff today. Tomlin may have listened to Ben, Colbert and the Rooneys' input on whether to keep or fire Arians this off-season but the fact Arians will be our OC this upcoming season was Tomlin's decision.
    Yup. When he left New England, he said "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries" in reference to Robert Kraft overruling him and choosing Terry Glenn with the 7th overall pick in 1996 (with the Tuna subsequently referring to Glenn as "she" on numerous occassions.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Yup. When he left New England, he said "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries" in reference to Robert Kraft overruling him and choosing Terry Glenn with the 7th overall pick in 1996 (with the Tuna subsequently referring to Glenn as "she" on numerous occassions.

    thanks for the exact quote, here are some more of my favorite Parcell quotes:



    “He was one of my best friends. . . . Those are the people you can count on the fingers of one hand.”


    “Success is never final, but failure can be.”


    “When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know.”



    “No matter how much you've won, no matter how many games, no matter how many championships, no matter how many Super Bowls, you're not winning now, so you stink.”


    “There is winning and there is misery.”


    “I had an Italian mother. She didn't view what I was doing as really a profession. She viewed it as recreation. I said, "Gee Mom, I'm going to be the head coach of the New York Giants." And she said to me, "When are you going to get a real job like your brother the banker?"”

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Does anyone recall the Steeler Nation complaining about an assistant Steeler coach as we do about Arians ?

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by fezziwig
    Does anyone recall the Steeler Nation complaining about an assistant Steeler coach as we do about Arians ?
    No.... but if we had a message board best believe we would have one.

    I really despised Arian early on but I started watching other teams play calling in similar situations and realized it wasn't really that different.

    Look at Andy Reid... That guy wouldn't run if the D had 8 safeties playing Ed Reed deep but thy were very successful for years. Sure they never won a SB but most teams don't.

    I really was shocked at how little anger the board had with Lebeaus D last year. What if the O puts up similar production and the D keeps blowing it late in games. Is it still BA's fault?

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