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    John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Since the Trib hired him, I've deliberated over when — and why — John "Amateur Hour" Harris will sign a contract extension. Or, if he deserves one.

    Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal
    By John Harris, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, June 8, 2010

    Since the close of the 2009 season, I've deliberated over when — and why — Steelers coach Mike Tomlin will sign a eagerly anticipated contract extension. Or, if he deserves one.

    As we enter the second week in June, with offseason workouts concluding Thursday and Tomlin entering the final year of his contract, my thoughts are clear.

    I don't believe the Steelers' brass is completely sold on Tomlin.

    Several factors nudged me toward that opinion.

    When Tomlin won Super Bowl XLIII in his second season, becoming the youngest coach in NFL history to do so, his star was never higher. Yet, the Steelers didn't pull the trigger on a new deal.

    Maybe Tomlin's asking price is too high. Or, maybe the Steelers want more time to determine if Tomlin is another George Seifert or Barry Switzer — coaches who won a Super Bowl with someone else's players.

    Does Tomlin deserve a contract extension? Of course he does.

    But contract extensions should be a joyous occasion for both sides. The lack of urgency toward a new deal for Tomlin has become quite painful.

    What strikes a nerve for me about the lack of a new deal for Tomlin is the team's track record for taking care of its coaches who win.

    Tomlin's three-year coaching record is 31-17 with two playoff appearances. He's 3-1 in the postseason.

    Consider that Steelers management never failed to re-sign Bill Cowher with fewer than two years on his contract until the last moment.

    In 2006, the sides failed to agree on a new deal. When Cowher resigned following the 2006 season, he had one year left on his contract.

    In January, team president Art Rooney II told the Tribune-Review, "I think Mike's going to be our coach for a long time. That's certainly what we're shooting for, and that's his intention, so we'll deal with it at the appropriate time."

    The "appropriate time" might have been a few months ago, but a lot has happened since January. Not the least of which is that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will open the season apart from his teammates after violating the league's personal conduct policy.

    Other significant changes have also taken place.

    Rooney promised the Steelers will concentrate more on the run despite a record- setting passing output in 2009 — not at all what Tomlin and offensive coordinator Bruce Arians envisioned following last year's high-octane attack.

    For another, the Steelers re-signed two players from other teams who lost their starting jobs under Tomlin — linebacker Larry Foote and cornerback Bryant McFadden.

    Rarely does a coach, particularly a Steelers coach, bring back players he determined were no longer starters after letting them go — not to mention signing both players to contract extensions upon their return.

    What's telling for me is a slight shift in philosophy — on offense and defense — away from Tomlin's point of view.

    For instance, while Tomlin spoke repeatedly about his secondary needing to create more splash plays — for example, interceptions — during the team's five-game losing streak last season, defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau told me recently, "I don't really use interceptions as an evaluating criteria. I think they're nice, they're good — you want them. (But) the No. 1 thing is the other guy doesn't catch the ball."

    Of course, the Steelers could sign Tomlin to a new deal before the end of the week. Management may want to have Tomlin's contract situation settled before the start of training camp July 30 so as to not create another distraction along with the media circus that's sure to shadow Roethlisberger around Latrobe.

    After all, the last thing management wants to do is give players the impression that Tomlin, even though the team holds an option on his contract for the 2011 season, isn't going to be their coach for a long time — unless he's not their long-term choice.

    The same holds true for some of the assistants hired when Tomlin took over in 2007. That includes Arians, who was the target of offseason media reports that Tomlin considered letting him go — a charge Tomlin denies.

    Put another way: If the Steelers don't sign Tomlin to a new deal before the start of the season, it's a vote of no-confidence for a coach who made history in his second season.
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_684884.html

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    I wonder if the Rooneys are seeing fault in Tomlin with Bens troubles and other troubled players we have had since Cowher departed ?

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by fezziwig
    I wonder if the Rooneys are seeing fault in Tomlin with Bens troubles and other troubled players we have had since Cowher departed ?
    There were player issues under Cowher and Noll too.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    "Unleash hell" prediction was bold, but failed. I wonder if the Rooneys
    remember this and put this in their back pocket for later if necessary.
    I mean Tomlin takes the blame for the offense last season. And the lack of
    running game. It is his job to step in and tell Arians let's run the ball more.
    Or to change the plays or whatever. He admitted that he has never
    stepped in and override BAs or LeBeau"s play calling. He seems to let coaches
    do whatever they wich and when they wish during the course of the games.
    Why is this??? Make ya wonder.

    And I am a big Tomlin supporter. But I do question this area.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Since the Trib hired him, I've deliberated over when — and why — John "Amateur Hour" Harris will sign a contract extension. Or, if he deserves one.
    I got the biggest chuckle out of the line "my thoughts are clear".

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    would you give a contract extension to someone who hires Arians as the team's OC?

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by flippy
    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Since the Trib hired him, I've deliberated over when — and why — John "Amateur Hour" Harris will sign a contract extension. Or, if he deserves one.
    I got the biggest chuckle out of the line "my thoughts are clear".
    Harris is proof that you can get a decent job with a degree from a correspondance course. This guy has to be the worst, make that tied for the worst with Mark Madden, sports writer associated with Pittsburgh sports.

    He is just plain terrible. There is better journalism from posters on the site than anything Harris writes.
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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    I'd rather read my eight year old's school papers while my wife whines about the state of our yard.
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    would you give a contract extension to someone who hires Arians as the team's OC?

    There was an article posted earlier in the year that says that Arians wasn't hired by Tomlin. It was in his contract that he would get the OC job when BC left. Tomlin had nothing to do with it. It also stated that only the Roonies could fire Arians. Not Tomlin.
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    Re: John "Amateur Hour" Harris: Tomlin contract not a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by calmkiller
    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    would you give a contract extension to someone who hires Arians as the team's OC?

    There was an article posted earlier in the year that says that Arians wasn't hired by Tomlin. It was in his contract that he would get the OC job when BC left. Tomlin had nothing to do with it. It also stated that only the Roonies could fire Arians. Not Tomlin.

    I have never known the Rooneys to mandate the hiring of an OC to a new incoming head coach...Tomlin must have at least signed off on it and he definitely defended Arians when the FO wanted him fired so Tomlin is involved in the process.



    It took little time for the new, young Steelers coach to allay fears that he would slash everything on a team one year removed from a Super Bowl championship -- from their defense to the psyche of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    Mike Tomlin, formally introduced as the Steelers' third head coach in 38 years, went to work quickly on his staff, hiring both coordinators. He confirmed that Dick LeBeau will remain as his defensive coordinator, and he promoted Bruce Arians from coaching the wide receivers to his offensive coordinator.


    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07023/75 ... z0qI9HJcNV


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    Bouchette also confirmed that “the front office” wants Arians out, but Tomlin does not. Just who “front office” is remains unclear. It could be Kevin Colbert or Art Rooney II or both.

    (Bouchette also reported that Tomlin has fought successfully to save the job of one of his special teams coaches following the 2007 season, a fact was not widely known before today.)

    Brown also informed his readers that Tomlin was in the process of meeting with his players, one-by-one, and then would move on to meet with each coach individually.

    Both Brown and Ed Bouchette informed readers that no final decision on Arians is likely until Tomlin has completed those meetings, something which might not happen until the beginning of next week.

    The Tribune-Review's Joe Starkey, who was critical of many of Tomlin's coaching hires, has written an excellent piece that about the dilemma created by Arians.

    http://steelcurtainrising.blogspot.com/ ... -fate.html

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