Originally Posted by ramblinjim
You just might have something with your Legursky theory. Doug has improved every season. He made a big step forward last season and he's been 1st team in OTAs this spring in the absence of Hartwig. In any event I believe his position as a backup is solid. Additionally, he was at one time learning how to long snap. I have'nt heard what kind of progress he's made with that however.
C'mon guys...let's talk some REAL surprise cuts:
1) Hines Ward
Too old and injury prone.
2) James Farrior
Too slow and getting old.
3) Ike Taylor
Not gonna sign him after this season, anyway.
4) Lamarr Woodley
Same as above; besides, we've got all-Worlids now.
5) Troy Polamalu
Tomlin's ticked at him--"He trains away, he can just STAY away."
6) Ben Roethlisberger
They thought it would make a bigger statement to let him come back for awhile, THEN cut him.
Both of these should be considered, but there's no way they will. They should make these guys renegotiate their contracts. No way they'll play up to them at this point. I hate to say it too.
These would be my surprise cuts:
1. Hartwig--would be a surprise IMO because I doubt Pouncey is ready to take over as a starting center.
2. Matt Spaeth--unlikely because David Johnson doesn't appear to be able to catch a football. I'd like to see McHugh make this roster. He probably a better overall talent than all the TEs not named Heath.
3. Arnez Battle--Do you really take reps away from Emmanual Sanders to keep this guy around primarily for special teams. I'd rather see Sanders getting the reps.
4. Sunny Harris--do we really give up on a player we wanted to keep last year but lost and got back as soon as we could to keep Eason. I don't think so.
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See, I was going to list Battle but I think I heard that Tomlin says he views him as our primary gunner on special teams as of right now and i think that duality seals it (aside from the contract) (and aside from the fact our new special teams couch brought him over specifically from S.F.). I don' think Everest would stake his initial reputation on Battle, convince the F.O. to sign him, and then cut him in camp.
i'd place my money on logan being cut.
we drafted a couple guys that can return last year and this year and they also play a position
are you telling me you want their fat asses running down the field trying to tackle someone like cribbs on a punt? a true long snapper is needed. its like asking dixon to work on being the punter and kicker while the first team is practicing. they have their positions that they are best atlet them do that. if you could rely on someone to do both then no team in the nfl would reserve a roster spot for specialists.I agree that it's not a position you want to screw around with. Harrison taught us that. My question is... What are Hills, Urbik, Essex, Legursky, Foster, etc. doing in their free time? Don't tell me they're too sore on Sunday's, Monday's, and Tuesday's not to practice 4-5 hours long snapping a day. That should be a job requirement, just like lifting weights. You're in the frickin' NFL. Get a little hungry.Yup. The Giants have used players from other positions (linebacker Zak DeOssie and d-lineman Jay Alford) but every other team has a designated long snapper.
Think of how many times we kick field goals, PAT's, and punt during the year. Last year, those numbers were 31, 41, and 72, respectively. That is 144 opportunities in which a bad snap that sails over the holder or punter's head can be disasterous.
It is worth the roster spot to have a guy who gets it there on target every time, and gets it there with enough velocity that oncoming rushers don't have time to get into our backfield to block the kick.
Face it, folks...long snappers are valuable. If the James Harrison experiment didn't leave a last impression on you regarding the worth of a solid long snapper, I don't know what to tell you.
1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242
Wouldn't upset me at all to see Logan get cut. That would mean that maybe BOTH young WR's have a shot at contributing. I'd love to see us have a draft where most of the players actually make the team.
My gut tells me that either a Worilds or Thad Gibson doesn't pan out for us.
just as long as we get 1 good OLB i'll be happy...if its worilds im gonna be pissed we didn't take sean leeWouldn't upset me at all to see Logan get cut. That would mean that maybe BOTH young WR's have a shot at contributing. I'd love to see us have a draft where most of the players actually make the team.
My gut tells me that either a Worilds or Thad Gibson doesn't pan out for us.
1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242
yeah but these guys are two of our leaders so they have value in that respect as well...and i dont think Hines is washed up yet, personallyBoth of these should be considered, but there's no way they will. They should make these guys renegotiate their contracts. No way they'll play up to them at this point. I hate to say it too.
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