Sugar, why are there plans to discipline Ben? Did he do anything wrong or is he a victim? Do you condone him being disciplined?Originally Posted by Sugar
Sugar, why are there plans to discipline Ben? Did he do anything wrong or is he a victim? Do you condone him being disciplined?Originally Posted by Sugar
But why, if you are an underage sorority girl who isn't supposed to be drinking, would you go find the first cop that you saw and bring attention to your illegal drunkeness if you didn't get violated in some way?Originally Posted by Sugar
I do not condone him being disciplined in any way. I don't know if he did anything wrong. He hasn't admitted to anything. There is no video. There is no eyewitness testimony. There is no physical evidence.Originally Posted by Lebsteel
i never thought the nation had so many people who rode really tall horses.
I never thought the Nation would have so many people so dead set on winning that they would continue to back a guy who more than likely raped a drunk 20 year old.Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti
[quote=sd steel]But why, if you are an underage sorority girl who isn't supposed to be drinking, would you go find the first cop that you saw and bring attention to your illegal drunkeness if you didn't get violated in some way?[/quote:1p3p9jj5]Originally Posted by Sugar
Because all you have to do is claim sexual assault or rape and all else is forgotten.
Have you yet seen a report that she was cited for underage drinking? She had a fake ID confiscated at the same club a few weeks earlier. She hasn't been cited for underage drinking despite that fact and despite the fact that she had a .2 bac.
I wonder why............
[quote=sd steel]I never thought the Nation would have so many people so dead set on winning that they would continue to back a guy who more than likely raped a drunk 20 year old.[/quote:3mtk412i]Originally Posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":3mtk412i
It's got nothing to do with winning you stupid mother ****er...it's got to do with not automatically assuming guilt based on the accounts of intoxicated, unreliable witnesses.
Jackass.
there was a report he was at the steeler facility (i think even working out). there was no plan to make a statment that day . and had to make the staement on the go with what was on him.Originally Posted by feltdizz
why they wouldn't wait for a chance for better clothes etc ...i dont know... you might want to ask the steeler brass on that one
but, you being influenced by a hair style and a nike shirt and slacks really doesn't suprise me
[quote=stlrz d][quote="sd steel":11316r44]I never thought the Nation would have so many people so dead set on winning that they would continue to back a guy who more than likely raped a drunk 20 year old.[/quote:11316r44]Originally Posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":11316r44
It's got nothing to do with winning you stupid mother bad word...it's got to do with not automatically assuming guilt based on the accounts of intoxicated, unreliable witnesses.
Jackass.[/quote:11316r44]
This is still America, right? Perhaps we should just make Ben a contestant on the Running Man!
[quote=sd steel][quote="stlrz d":37agiilb]Please stop making sense man.Originally Posted by Sugar
Someone here who doesn't like Ben's style of play wants to believe he raped someone because the accuser and her sorority sisters say so...with conflicting accounts I might add.[/quote:37agiilb]
I don't get you, have I criticized the way Ben plays sometimes? Yes, but I love watching him and I love the success he has brought to the Steelers. I went as far as to get his autograph for my son. Do I feel he needs to be a superstar person for me to root for him? Not at all. I still prop Jack Lambert and Ernie Holmes when showing my kid my heroes and they were not saints outside of football, or even on the field. and if these accusations ever prove to be completely false and a money grab I will be the first one back on the board to state that I was mistaken about Ben, but until then I will see it for what I have learned from the police reports the witness statements, .[/quote:37agiilb]
dont want to get in the middle of this arguement
but, why wouldn't you just wait. i dont believe we've heard the end of all sides to the story.
once more of the story comes out, it might be easier to figure out what happened instead of assuming the accusers statements are true and having to backtrack later if you're wrong
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