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    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Dub
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    His routes were sloppy in college but don't forget OSU was in the process of converting him from CB to WR. IMO, he would be an upgrade over ARE and could be a solid #3. I wouldn't give up a high pick though.

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    [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":1f4cnevm
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.[/quote:1f4cnevm]

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    [quote=RuthlessBurgher]
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":q9ijcr9h
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
    7/27/2007: Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract. The deal includes $14 million guaranteed. 2009: $677,917, 2010: $1,035,833, 2011: $1,393,750, 2012: $1,801,667 (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent[/quote:q9ijcr9h]
    As long as the Fins have already paid him the guaranteed $, he would be well worth the 2010 and 2011 figures.

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    He's just a faster, sloppier, lazier Limas Sweed, imo.

    I had him in FF this year, he dropped just about ever sure TD thrown his way. Of course I sat him for the weekend he returned two TDs.

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    I guess I'd do it for a sixth. A fifth? I don't know, probably.
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    [quote=RuthlessBurgher]
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":2g4un9h4
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
    7/27/2007: Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract. The deal includes $14 million guaranteed. 2009: $677,917, 2010: $1,035,833, 2011: $1,393,750, 2012: $1,801,667 (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent[/quote:2g4un9h4]
    Thanks RB. Looks like he is worth a shot.
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