Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 27

Thread: Ted Ginn Anyone?

  1. #11

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    2014 NFL Draft
    1) ​Darqueze Dennard-DB MSU
    2) Jordan Matthews-WR Vandy
    3) Chris Borland-ILB Wisconsin
    4) Caraun Reid, DT Princeton
    5) De'Anthony Thomas-RB Oregon
    5b) Ryan Carrethers-NT Arkansas State
    6) Jeff Janis-WR Saginow Valley State
    6b) Seantrel Henderson, OT MIami
    7) Colt Lyerla -TE Oregon

  2. #12
    Hall of Famer Dee Dub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    4,534

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.


    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
    2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-- -- Traded --
    3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
    4--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
    5--Brent Urban DE Virginia
    6--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
    7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State









  3. #13
    Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,348

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Dub
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
    1st (T-D) Kelvin Benjamin WR
    2nd Bradley Roby CB
    3a Kareem Martin DE
    3b C.J. Fiedorowicz TE
    4th Christian Jones LB
    5a Dri Archer RB
    5b Kevin Pierre-Louis LB
    6a Beau Allen NT
    6b Shaquille Richardson CB
    7th John Brown WR

  4. #14
    Pro Bowler
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    1,826

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    His routes were sloppy in college but don't forget OSU was in the process of converting him from CB to WR. IMO, he would be an upgrade over ARE and could be a solid #3. I wouldn't give up a high pick though.

  5. #15
    Legend RuthlessBurgher's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Where the Rubber Meets the Road (in NEPA)
    Posts
    20,365

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":1f4cnevm
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.[/quote:1f4cnevm]

    7/27/2007: Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract. The deal includes $14 million guaranteed. 2009: $677,917, 2010: $1,035,833, 2011: $1,393,750, 2012: $1,801,667 (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent


    1.15 WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
    2.46 TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
    3.97c ILB Shayne Skov, Stanford
    4.118 CB Philip Gaines, Rice
    5.157 OT James Hurst, North Carolina
    5.173c RB Jerrick McKinnon, Georgia Southern
    6.192 CB Walt Aikens, Liberty
    6.215c DE Deandre Coleman, California
    7.230 NT Zack Kerr, Delaware

  6. #16
    Pro Bowler Lebsteel's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    SW Ohio
    Posts
    1,004

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    [quote=RuthlessBurgher]
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":q9ijcr9h
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
    7/27/2007: Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract. The deal includes $14 million guaranteed. 2009: $677,917, 2010: $1,035,833, 2011: $1,393,750, 2012: $1,801,667 (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent[/quote:q9ijcr9h]
    As long as the Fins have already paid him the guaranteed $, he would be well worth the 2010 and 2011 figures.

  7. #17
    Starter
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Posts
    962

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    He's just a faster, sloppier, lazier Limas Sweed, imo.

    I had him in FF this year, he dropped just about ever sure TD thrown his way. Of course I sat him for the weekend he returned two TDs.

  8. #18
    Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Cincitucky (Stinktown, U.S.A.)
    Posts
    3,887

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    I guess I'd do it for a sixth. A fifth? I don't know, probably.
    1 Mike Evans WR Texas A&M
    2 Stephen Tuitt DE Notre Dame
    3c Keith McGill CB Utah
    4 Ross Cockrell CB Duke
    5 Jordan Zumwalt ILB UCLA
    5c Anton Exum S Va Tech
    6 Trey Millard FB/TE Oklahoma
    7 Cody Latimer WR Indiana
    7c DeAnthony Thomas RB Oregon

  9. #19
    Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,348

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    [quote=RuthlessBurgher]
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by "Dee Dub":2g4un9h4
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    I watched nearly every game Ginn and Holmes played in college. My take on Holmes was that he would be an elite NFL talent. Not sure he quite made it there but he was certainly very good. I'm a big fan of sharp route runners and Holmes has always been a terrific route runner.

    My take on Ginn was that he was very sloppy. He always rounded off out routes and had suspect hands. Ginn was dazzling in college however...his speed is so elite that he made guys look like they were standing still. He still has that speed. He is a real return threat.

    My take? It depends on his contract. I wouldn't want Ginn for much more than vet minimum but he is worth a 6th based on his return prowess. Maybe Ward could get the guy to become a better route runner. I think he would be much more productive with Ben throwing him the ball. I would like to see him in the BnG. But, don't expect anything more than a #4 WR and return specialist. I will say though the thought of the safety respect Ginn and Wallace would receive would open up the run game.
    The cool thing is...the Steelers dont need Ginn to be elite. Just good. The Dolphins having used a first round pick on Ginn, needed him to be elite. And for a late round pick from the Steelers I think getting a descent receiver is a win-win situation.
    I'm with you on this one. Nothing wrong with some competition. One factor might be his contract because he was a 1st. Might be too big of a number regardless of the comp. I'm not sure what his number is.
    7/27/2007: Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract. The deal includes $14 million guaranteed. 2009: $677,917, 2010: $1,035,833, 2011: $1,393,750, 2012: $1,801,667 (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent[/quote:2g4un9h4]
    Thanks RB. Looks like he is worth a shot.
    1st (T-D) Kelvin Benjamin WR
    2nd Bradley Roby CB
    3a Kareem Martin DE
    3b C.J. Fiedorowicz TE
    4th Christian Jones LB
    5a Dri Archer RB
    5b Kevin Pierre-Louis LB
    6a Beau Allen NT
    6b Shaquille Richardson CB
    7th John Brown WR

  10. #20
    Pro Bowler
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    1,002

    Re: Ted Ginn Anyone?

    [youtube:2gxxj362]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RaYgGSHJ5hM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0 x4e9e00"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RaYgGSHJ5hM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0 x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube:2gxxj362]
    In response to his pleas, an officer said: "You think we've never arrested somebody that's made national media? ... We deal with the Bengals all the time."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3880848

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •