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    Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by flippy
    If we're gonna trade him, he's gotta be worth at least 3 #1s.

    If we did have to trade him, we could get Suh and trade up for Berry and load up the defense.
    Ben's value is dropping like a rock. Soon we will be lucky to get what the Eagles ot for McNabb...2nd and conditional 3/4.
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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    While he's been embarrassing to the organization for the past 9-10 months without any criminal charges, trials or convictions and I'm forced to make the decision in the next 30 minutes I would not pull the trigger.

    He's as good a quarterback as there is in the league and they are very difficult to find and develop. He's immature, boorish, egotistical and naive and those are a bad combination of personality traits, but he's still innocent of any wrongdoing and hasn't been officially charged with any criminal activity, so I would keep him.

    He would miss game time, if the union allows it to occur without pay, then 2-4 games would be the wake up call. If the union fights the no pay part then he'd miss the first 8 games and be the emergency quarterback only and the team would suffer for it either way. Hopefully, his team mates would expect better of him moving forward and let him know as much.

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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    I would do it for this years 1 & 2 and Adam Carriker.
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    Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

    So you say if a 3rd thing pops up, which it has, NOW we trade him for multiple 1sts?

    Why on Earth would the Rams trade for him and pay top value? Of course they will want him for much less. And what kind of signal does that send to their fans? 'Eh, we don't mind serial rapists here in St. Louis.'
    This line of reasoning makes no sense.

    It would be nice to get 3 no.1s for him, but that's just not going to happen.

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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    No...I wouldn't trade him.

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    Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

    I guarantee the Patriots could get 3 first round picks.

    Steelers front office? Maybe a 4th.
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    Re: Trade Ben For 2 First Rounders Including 2010 #1 overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by NW Steeler
    Now that I have calmed down a bit, I think that nothing will happen as far as a trade goes. I don't know how the team can suspend Ben without it being a punishment to the rest of the team though. That isn't fair to them. If the NFL suspends him, then that is a different story.
    Exactly and that's why it should be done, let the team police themselves a bit. I'm certain that some of the players would take issue with Ben being the reason they lose an opportunity to win games and let him know about it.

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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    For two 1sts???

    I'd ship him off.

    IMO, there is absolutely no way this is over.

    Even if this 3rd accuser is complete BS, the civil suit has yet to go to trial.

    How does the team & league respond if Ben is found libel for sexual assault in that case?

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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    No...I wouldn't trade him.
    Even if this third incident is true?? And if you still say "NO"...how many more would it take for you?? Just curious.
    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1-Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
    2-Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-Jordan Tripp ILB/OLB Montana
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    5-Brent Urban DE Virginia
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    6-Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State
    6-Ben Gardner DE Stanford
    7-Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma

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    Re: If you had the opportunity right now...

    Maybe we could trade him to Ravens for a 7th and a bag of Doritos. :P

    Seriously ...

    Knowing only what I know right now, I feel there is a lot of risk with Ben. Honestly, I HOPE with all my might that the smear campaign and/or money scam theories are true and that the truth of Ben's innocence will all come out and all the hiding cockroaches are exposed, but I'm having a very tough time just dismissing all of it.

    Right now ... I would do that trade and take Suh with the first pick and like DD said, shoot for picking up Tebow in the 2nd. STL is likely to have a top-5 pick next year too.

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