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    Head-to-head mock: Bradford firm at No. 1
    By Nolan Nawrocki and Doug Farrar, Special to Yahoo! Sports
    Mar 31, 1:21 pm EDT


    With the 75th NFL draft now three weeks away, here’s our latest head-to-head mock draft. This week, we pit Pro Football Weekly vs. Shutdown Corner:


    1. St. Louis

    Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
    The premium on the QB position makes Bradford the most valuable player in the draft from a trade standpoint. With so many holes on the roster, the Rams could benefit from trading down and acquiring more picks, but the greatest chance of executing a trade will come by selecting Bradford, who, if no trade is made, fills the Rams’ greatest need.

    Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
    Bradford looked completely comfortable throwing in his private workout on Monday. There’s still the issue of how he’ll hold up under pressure in the NFL, but barring a real surprise (or a team like the Redskins trading up to get him), Bradford had best start packing his bags for St. Louis. The Rams desperately need a franchise quarterback, and Bradford has the arm and accuracy to be that guy over time.

    2. Detroit

    Russell Okung, OT, Okla. State
    Jeff Backus(notes) is 32 years old with 32½-inch arms, the shortest of any left tackle in the league, and he struggled to keep prized QB Matthew Stafford(notes) healthy in his first season at the helm. Lions’ brass has made an effort to draft more securely and, although Okung is not the most athletic offensive tackle, he is a very safe pick.

    Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
    Bradford may go with the first overall pick, but Suh is the best player in this draft. Head coach Jim Schwartz, formerly Tennessee’s defensive coordinator, knows all about what a dominant defensive tackle can do for a team. With his pursuit speed, ridiculous upper-body strength, ability to disrupt, and elite work ethic, Suh could exceed the greatness of Albert Haynesworth(notes) at his peak.

    3. Tampa Bay

    Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
    The Buccaneers could be sitting in an enviable position with a huge need at defensive tackle and their choice of the draft’s best defender. The ability to consistently rush the passer should play into McCoy’s favor.

    Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
    One of the many challenges the Bucs face in returning their franchise to prominence is to rebuild a defensive line that allowed almost five yards per carry in 2009. McCoy is the perfect first solution, as he’s an outstanding run-stopper in several different ways.

    4. Washington

    Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
    The key position in a “30” front is nose tackle, and the Redskins are counting on 31-year-old Ma’ake Kemoeatu, who is coming off an injury, to hold down the middle. Greater needs exist at the QB and OLT positions, but Mike Shanahan has shown he can make his quick-hitting offense function with average quarterbacks (Jake Plummer(notes), Brian Griese(notes)) and free- agent left tackles (Matt Lepsis(notes)). Daniel Snyder aggressively tried to acquire Jay Cutler(notes) and trade into position for Mark Sanchez(notes) last year and would like nothing more than to acquire a franchise quarterback. However, if the Redskins cannot move into position to land Bradford, they could find Suh too talented to pass up and welcome a centerpiece to their defense.

    Russell Okung, OT, Okla. State
    Shanahan may want his own quarterback down the road, but there’s wisdom in sticking with Jason Campbell(notes) in the here and now. Reason No. 1 is the necessity of finding Chris Samuels’(notes) replacement at left tackle. Campbell was under siege last year, and no other quarterback would fare better behind Washington’s current offensive line. Okung is the most developed tackle in this class, and the best pass protector. He doesn’t have elite drive-blocking power, and he’s a little stiff at the second level, but he’s a persistent blind side blocker with excellent in-line technique.

    5. Kansas City

    Eric Berry, FS, Tennessee
    It’s difficult to justify spending top-five money on the safety position, but with more teams airing out the ball and picking apart secondaries, a new premium has been placed on defending the back half, where the Chiefs are sorely undermanned.

    Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
    GM Scott Pioli has a longtime friendship with Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, and he knows that teaching offensive linemen the basics and getting them fundamentally sound is Ferentz’s specialty. While not a top-level pass-blocker, Bulaga comes prepared for the pros more than most at his position. Where he excels is in creating rushing lanes, and extending plays with downfield blocks.

    6. Seattle

    Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    After relying on Walter Jones(notes) for so many years, the Seahawks need to find a replacement, and no one is better-suited for Alex Gibbs’ zone-blocking scheme than Williams.

    Eric Berry, FS, Tennessee
    Everybody knows that the Seahawks have desperate needs along their offensive line, but it’s quite possible that their secondary is even weaker. Berry could fill a void – he’s fast, smart, and tough, and he might just be the best defensive player in this draft not named Ndamukong Suh.

    7. Cleveland

    Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
    After shipping off Braylon Edwards(notes) and Kellen Winslow(notes), Derek Anderson(notes) struggled to function. If Mike Holmgren expects to get a return on the investment he made in Jake Delhomme, he will need at least one playmaker on offense. Bryant has the hands, body control and leaping ability to make an average quarterback look good.

    Joe Haden, CB, Florida
    Haden can play press man and is comfortable in zones; his read recognition is exceptional and he has the recovery speed to make up for any mistakes. The Browns have already put Haden through a private workout on the Florida campus and will bring him to Berea for a visit in early April.

    8. Oakland

    Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    There is no tape to support Campbell being drafted anywhere near this early, but Al Davis has not relied on football-playing evaluations for a long time. Instead, he drafts on numbers and perceived upside, and a physical marvel like Campbell could be too much for Davis to pass up.

    Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    Williams moved from right to left tackle in 2009, and impressed more and more as the season went along with his ability to get the hang of the more complicated position. Williams has great feet, short-area-speed, and drive power. He’s not a finished product, but the evolutionary version could be a perennial Pro Bowler.

    9. Buffalo

    C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
    The Bills are legitimate contenders in the market for Donovan McNabb(notes), and he could provide a missing piece of the puzzle. But whether the Bills are able to upgrade the QB position, they could still sorely use a catalyst in the mold of Brian Westbrook(notes) to take over games, and Spiller has the ability to electrify.

    Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
    The Bills need a nose tackle that can man the point and soak up double teams, while disrupting the middle as well. Williams is quick for his size, plays with great strength, and sets up in a wide base that makes him very difficult to move. If Williams doesn’t go here, he won’t make it past the Broncos and Dolphins at 11 and 12 – both 3-4 teams also need a nose tackle of his caliber.

    10. Jacksonville

    Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
    The Tim Tebow show is expected to come to Jacksonville, and it still may be a possibility – only if he is available in the second round and the Jaguars cannot address the position sooner. David Garrard(notes) has not been able to get the Jaguars over the hump, and a new offensive leader is needed.

    Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
    Slightly underrated as a corner/safety hybrid projection, Thomas is one of the best defensive playmakers in this draft class at any position. He led the nation with 24 passes defensed, and finished second with eight interceptions. Jacksonville has long been a home for physically talented DBs who couldn’t read a quarterback’s intentions if their lives depended on it. That changes with the selection of Thomas.

    11. Denver
    (from Chicago)

    Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
    The Broncos are as sound on the edges as any team could be, with Ryan Clady(notes) and Ryan Harris(notes) very capably manning the corners. However, if they want to pound the ball, they need a more physical temperament on the inside, and Bulaga could add it to the ground game from Day 1.

    Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama
    What the Broncos need is the kind of young franchise player on the defensive side who will establish a culture of accountability just as much as he brings it on the field. McClain is as tough as they come, both mentally and physically – he practically lives in the film room and he never missed a game for the Crimson Tide.

    12. Miami

    Taylor Mays, S, USC
    Earl Thomas is a more instinctive, ballhawking defender and more worthy of being the second safety off the board. However, Bill Parcells is too enticed by size and will be thinking he can mold Mays, an immature physical specimen, into a player.

    Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
    Graham’s utterly dominant performance at the Senior Bowl showcased a player who recorded 10½ sacks and 26 tackles for loss in the 2009 season. Graham and former CFL star Cameron Wake will give new defensive coordinator Mike Nolan the kind of quarterback pressure he needs to turn that defense around.

    13. San Francisco

    Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama
    Pairing McClain with Patrick Willis(notes) at inside ‘backer could give the Niners a dominant duo to defend the middle. Quintessential pro Takeo Spikes(notes) is entering his 13th season and soon will need to be replaced.

    Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
    Davis has some question marks regarding his technique and work ethic, but he’s a very good pass-blocker with a good punch when opening lanes for running backs. Perhaps a supreme motivator like Mike Singletary could keep Davis’ head straight, allowing him to live up to his potential.

    14. Seattle
    (from Denver)

    Derrick Morgan, DE, Ga. Tech
    Dealing Darryl Tapp(notes) to the Eagles only increases the Seahawks’ need for an end, even if they received Chris Clemons in exchange. Patrick Kerney(notes) is 33, has lost a step and has not been able to stay healthy, and Morgan can ably step in to replace him.

    C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
    Spiller may be the ultimate weapon for an offense like Seattle’s, in which production has lagged at most every position. Not only can he bounce outside from the backfield and speed past defenders, he can also line up in the slot and wide as a receiver – in fact, he’d be a second-day pick as a receiver alone.

    15. N.Y. Giants

    Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
    Kevin Boss(notes) has limitations, and Travis Beckum(notes) was a disappointment as a rookie. The Giants could open up their offense considerably if they were able to stretch the seam more consistently, as Gresham is very capable of doing.

    Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
    Jacobs frequently ran as if there was a stop sign at the line of scrimmage, and though Ahmad Bradshaw(notes) was more efficient, he’s recovering from surgeries to both feet and his ankle. Mathews, who led the nation in rushing last season, has a rare combination of size, speed, and versatility that could help the Giants transition out of the “Earth, Wind, and Fire” era.

    16. Tennessee

    Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
    Owner Bud Adams still makes his residence in Houston and has an affinity for Texas-grown talent, with these four starters (Vince Young(notes), Michael Griffin(notes), Bo Scaife(notes), Ahmard Hall(notes)) all hailing from Longhorn country. Kindle is best with his hand on the ground and could bring the edge burst the Titans are seeking to ramp up their pass rush.

    Derrick Morgan, DE, Ga. Tech
    Tennessee’s formerly dominant defensive line has dropped off in recent years; losing Kyle Vanden Bosch(notes) to the Lions was just the latest hit. In replacing Vanden Bosch, the Titans need an end that can do double-duty as an edge rusher and run-stopper. At 6-3 and 266 pounds, Morgan has the do-it-all skill set needed – it’s the upside to the occasional concerns that his pass rush alone isn’t elite.

    17. San Francisco
    (from Carolina)

    Joe Haden, CB, Florida
    With Nate Clements(notes) struggling last season and the Niners lacking a true No. 1 corner, Haden would fill a strong area of need and give coordinator Greg Manusky the chance to be more creative with pressure packages.

    Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
    Clausen was productive in the right kind of system at Notre Dame, but a good dose of film review should have a lot of teams balking in the end. He’s got a very limited palette when it comes to deep throws, and he telegraphs his reads far too frequently. That doesn’t make him a bust, but it also doesn’t make him a top-five quarterback.

    18. Pittsburgh

    Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
    Chris Kemoeatu(notes) turned out to be a very solid find for the Steelers in the sixth round, possessing the power desired to clear holes in the running game. Iupati could be paired with Kemoeatu to establish the physical running game Mike Tomlin is seeking to re-establish after taking to the air much more often last season, and Iupati’s versatility is a big plus on a line with a number of holes.

    Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
    When it’s time to turn away from the police blotter and head back to the draft board, they’ll see what’s been staring them in the face for at least two seasons – their offensive line is a problem from left to right. Pouncey brings experience with the shotgun snap favored by offensive coordinator Bruce Arians (in 2009, Pittsburgh ran shotgun plays 40.1 percent of the time, fifth in the league) as well as the size and drive-blocking ability needed in a line that’s become less powerful in the middle.

    19. Atlanta

    Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
    The Falcons did not get enough from their pass rush last season, with rookie DT Peria Jerry(notes) being shelved because of injury and DE Jamaal Anderson(notes) struggling to produce a sack per season in his three years as a starter since Rich McKay and Bobby Petrino made him the eighth overall selection. Graham has enough strength to stack the run and much better foot energy to rush the passer and would upgrade the Falcons’ rush.

    Jason-Pierre Paul, DE, S. Florida
    Two things kept the Falcons out of the playoffs in 2009 – a below-average pass rush, and a secondary that allowed too many big plays. GM Thomas Dimitroff took care of the latter need with the signing of cornerback Dunta Robinson(notes). Pierre-Paul could solve the first issue in a way that the disappointing Anderson never could.

    20. Houston

    Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
    Bernard Pollard(notes) turned out to be a bargain pickup for the Texans, but Eugene Wilson’s(notes) inability to stay healthy remains an issue, and he may have more value at cornerback, where the Texans are now short after letting Dunta Robinson enter free agency. Thomas is also instinctive and athletic enough to help at corner or safety and could contribute immediately.

    Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
    In losing Robinson, the Texans turn to Wilson to fill the gap. Though Houston plays more zone than man defense, and Wilson has the chops to step right into that scheme, his best ability may be the way he turns his hips and trails deep receivers out of initial press coverage. When you’re facing Peyton Manning(notes) twice a year, that’s a very valuable asset.

    21. Cincinnati

    Everson Griffen, DE, USC
    The Bengals have a Trojan look, with Keith Rivers(notes) and Rey Maualuga(notes) manning the middle and Frostee Rucker(notes) coming off the bench. Antwan Odom(notes) is coming off a serious season-ending Achilles injury and may need to be upgraded. Griffen also gives the Bengals more flexibility to transition to “30” looks – something Mike Zimmer dabbled with a year ago.

    Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
    The Bengals have long believed that they can find value in the draft by taking players whose stock has dropped due to ancillary issues, and Bryant certainly fits the mold. On the football side, Bryant does have the toughness over the middle and ability to get downfield after the catch that would make him a fine target for quarterback Carson Palmer(notes).

    22. New England

    Jared Odrick, DL, Penn State
    Trading Richard Seymour(notes) to Oakland and letting Jarvis Green(notes) go to Denver in free agency created a void at right defensive end, where Odrick would ideally fit in the Patriots’ “30” look. His versatility would be attractive to a defensive mastermind.

    Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
    As an award-level defender at end and outside linebacker, Kindle would be a great fit in coach Bill Belichick’s hybrid defenses that often switch between 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. Kindle’s not just an edge rusher, though – he can get downhill against the run and chase down the best offensive weapon.

    23. Green Bay

    Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
    Mike McCarthy was able to adapt the offense last season and allow Aaron Rodgers(notes) to get rid of the ball more quickly, but a strong need still remains for edge help, with Chad Clifton(notes) and Mark Tauscher(notes) both on the wrong side of 30 and showing signs of wearing down. GM Ted Thompson has shown he will take some chances on players with character flaws.

    Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
    The 35-year-old Al Harris(notes) may miss pat of the season recovering from a knee injury, and Tramon Williams(notes) racked up over 100 yards in pass interference penalties in Harris’ stead. McCourty could make an impact right away with his speed and surprising toughness in tackling. He’s also an outstanding return man, something the Packers, with the moribund special teams, could certainly use.

    24. Philadelphia

    Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Mizzou
    The Eagles were plagued by injuries at the LB position and are in need of more depth at the position, as they wore down defensively late in 2009. Weatherspoon brings the versatility to play multiple positions and the range highly desired in Sean McDermott’s defense.

    Taylor Mays, S, USC
    The Eagles have a need at free safety, and Mays has the kind of athleticism rarely seen at any position. The question is whether he can take his measurables to the field in a way that allows him to make a difference. An absolute terror in run support, Mays is still figuring out the complexities of pass coverage. Still, he can make an impact as a rover on a Eagles team that also has weaknesses at outside linebacker.

    25. Baltimore

    Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
    With Kelly Gregg(notes) aging and the Ravens losing Justin Bannan(notes) to the Broncos in free agency, Greg Mattison could use more help in his defensive line rotation. Williams is ideally suited for the Ravens’ movement front and could be too difficult to pass up despite more pressing concerns at cornerback.

    Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
    With Todd Heap(notes) getting up in age and Joe Flacco(notes) needing as many reliable targets as possible, Gresham would be a great fit here. People will look at Gresham’s size and debit him for not being as physical at the line as other big tight ends, but Gresham projects better as a downfield threat – think more Antonio Gates(notes) than Brandon Pettigrew(notes).

    26. Arizona

    Demaryius Thomas, WR, Ga. Tech
    After shipping off Anquan Boldin(notes) to Baltimore and losing Kurt Warner(notes) to retirement, the Cardinals could use another physical, run-after-the-catch receiver to alleviate pressure on Matt Leinart(notes) or Derek Anderson.

    Jared Odrick, DL, Penn State
    In Bill Davis’ gap control defense, it’s crucial that the front three and four are able to hold the point and prevent big plays up the middle. Odrick doesn’t have the sheer weight the Cards will need at some point in the draft, but he has the kind of end-tackle versatility that could be a perfect fit for Arizona’s front seven.

    27. Dallas

    Patrick Robinson, CB, Fla. State
    With one of the deepest rosters in football, Jerry Jones can afford to draft the best available player as opposed to filling a need and could go any number of ways. However, Robinson has the size and man-cover skills Wade Phillips desires.

    Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    At 6-foot-7 and 315 pounds, Campbell has the size required on Dallas’ line, plus elite raw athleticism. He doesn’t project as well on game tape, but Jerry Jones has never shied away from project players.

    28. San Diego

    Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
    Despite a glaring need for a bell-cow back, where Fresno State’s Ryan Mathews could look appealing, the Chargers have a considerable need to fill at cornerback after dealing Antonio Cromartie(notes) to the Jets, and McCourty’s toughness and special-teams ability should be attractive to A.J. Smith.

    Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
    Cody didn’t live on many first-round draft boards until he dropped to about 350 pounds and showed improved short-area speed and agility at Alabama’s pro day. Maintaining a better fitness level will be his key to transcending the two-down basher label, and being worthy of a first-round grade.

    29. N.Y. Jets

    Vladimir Ducasse, OT, Mass.
    The Jets have one of the best offensive lines in football, but ORT Damien Woody(notes) and OLG Alan Faneca(notes) are not getting any younger, and Ducasse could greatly benefit from being groomed in their presence.

    Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
    Adding Iupati to the left side of that line might make it the best in the NFL. Considered by some to have the agility to kick out to left tackle someday, Iupati has an outstanding group of attributes – he’s great in pass pro, a nasty run blocker, and can move on pulls and slides.

    30. Minnesota

    Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
    Cedric Griffin(notes) and Antoine Winfield(notes) are both coming off injury-riddled seasons, and Wilson fits a similar mold as a feisty, physical competitor and could help in nickel situations.

    Patrick Robinson, CB, Fla. State
    Robinson might balk out of coverage assignments in Minnesota’s frequent zone schemes, but he’s also got the recovery speed to make up for any mistakes. A potential shutdown corner over time.

    31. Indianapolis

    Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
    Jeff Saturday(notes) is not getting any younger, and the Colts need to get bigger in the trenches if they want to run the ball with more success. Pouncey has the girth to match big-on-big and handle the space eaters who are becoming more common in AFC fronts.

    Brian Price, DT, UCLA
    The Colts moved from a series of vanilla Cover/Tampa-2 schemes under Tony Dungy to a more aggressive set of defensive looks under new coordinator Larry Coyer in 2009. Adding Price to that mix would be a wise move, as he has rare ability to blast through blocks and make plays in the backfield.

    32. New Orleans

    Jason-Pierre Paul, DE, S. Florida
    The Saints need to replace the pass rush they lost after cutting Charles Grant(notes) and could be very tempted by the raw physical tools of Pierre-Paul if he happens to slide to the Super Bowl champs, as he potentially could.

    Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU
    While Scott Fujita’s(notes) departure to Cleveland leaves a hole at outside linebacker, the Saints also require more pass rush with Gregg Williams’s hyper-aggressive defenses. Hughes mirrors that versatility –- while he may be a bit undersized to survive as a 4-3 end, Williams would no doubt find many different uses for his edge speed and run-stopping ability.
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    i would hate either iupati or pouncey at #18. i wouldnt even want pouncey in the second round

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank1
    i would hate either iupati or pouncey at #18. i wouldnt even want pouncey in the second round


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    It's funny because on the Official Steelers board, the fans there seem to think that Pouncey is the knees of the bee. Some there have even said that the Steelers would be almost irresponsible with any other pick.

    Here, nobody seems to want him- at least not that badly anyway.

    I guess the FO won't be able to please everyone.

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    As I scrolled down the board one pick at a time I was trying to keep track of who was left. After I looked at 17 I thought I might see both of them with Kyle Wilson at #18. I am getting more excited about the possibility of Wilson at 18. While it would be nice to blow open some holes in the middle for a short-yardage run game and help run out the clock in the fourth, Wilson does seem to make plays in the secondary. I think JD Walton from Baylor(?) and the guard from Arkansas sound like good possibilities a little later on. Maybe we could trade up and still get Pouncey late in the first if they really like him that much. The one guy had a point that Arians loves his shotgun formation, and Pouncey is familiar with that.

    If Iupati, Pouncey, and Wilson are left on the board at #18 I guess it will come down to what the Steelers see as a bigger need, running game or pass defense. I say the secondary needs more help, at least it did when Troy was out.

    I thought we needed to pass to set up the run and I would like to be balanced enough to be able to go either way with that. I think Wallace's deep threat really opened up a lot of things until we got to the red zone and his speed was not as much of a threat anymore. Then the weak run game really showed.

    On another note I saw that Aaron Smith was cleared by doctors to got full-tilt with his shoulder. Good to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank1
    i would hate either iupati or pouncey at #18. i wouldnt even want pouncey in the second round

    Is that because of your astute analysis of center talent or because of what you read? I'm not sure I get the hatred for Pouncey. The guy is the real deal.

    Now if you are saying you dont want to take any interior lineman at 18...that I get. And that I would agree with. But, I wouldn't cry over really anyone we will take at 18.

    We will likely take one of the following guys...and I'm ok with any of them.

    Iupati
    Pouncey
    Graham
    Thomas
    Haden
    Odrick
    Spiller
    Mays
    Williams
    Weatherspoon
    McClain

    A future Steeler is somewhere in that list. And I believe they can all play ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar
    It's funny because on the Official Steelers board, the fans there seem to think that Pouncey is the knees of the bee. Some there have even said that the Steelers would be almost irresponsible with any other pick.

    Here, nobody seems to want him- at least not that badly anyway.

    I guess the FO won't be able to please everyone.
    MaxAMillion has been calling himself Pounceyman on here for a while.

    Personally, I would prefer to go elsewhere at #18 (Earl Thomas, if he were available, for example), then possibly package our 2nd and 3rd to get another guy that we really like who is expected to be available in the late-first, early second round area, such as Pouncey or Jared Odrick or Jerry Hughes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar
    It's funny because on the Official Steelers board, the fans there seem to think that Pouncey is the knees of the bee. Some there have even said that the Steelers would be almost irresponsible with any other pick.

    Here, nobody seems to want him- at least not that badly anyway.

    I guess the FO won't be able to please everyone.

    the Steelers tried very hard to acquire a center in last year's draft, do you think that another year of watching Justin Hartwig get no push whatsoever in the center of our line has changed the Steelers' minds to where they are not going to try to get another center again in this year's draft?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank1
    i would hate either iupati or pouncey at #18. i wouldnt even want pouncey in the second round

    Is that because of your astute analysis of center talent or because of what you read? I'm not sure I get the hatred for Pouncey. The guy is the real deal.

    Now if you are saying you dont want to take any interior lineman at 18...that I get. And that I would agree with. But, I wouldn't cry over really anyone we will take at 18.

    We will likely take one of the following guys...and I'm ok with any of them.

    Iupati
    Pouncey
    Graham
    Thomas
    Haden
    Odrick
    Spiller
    Mays
    Williams
    Weatherspoon
    McClain

    A future Steeler is somewhere in that list. And I believe they can all play ball.
    add wilson

    and i think you can take out
    odrick (not another DE with drafting hood last year)
    spiller (gone)
    haden (gone)
    graham (cant see them drafting an OLB with so many other needs)

    1 of those 8 will be our pick at #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn
    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank1
    i would hate either iupati or pouncey at #18. i wouldnt even want pouncey in the second round

    Is that because of your astute analysis of center talent or because of what you read? I'm not sure I get the hatred for Pouncey. The guy is the real deal.

    Now if you are saying you dont want to take any interior lineman at 18...that I get. And that I would agree with. But, I wouldn't cry over really anyone we will take at 18.

    We will likely take one of the following guys...and I'm ok with any of them.

    Iupati
    Pouncey
    Graham
    Thomas
    Haden
    Odrick
    Spiller
    Mays
    Williams
    Weatherspoon
    McClain

    A future Steeler is somewhere in that list. And I believe they can all play ball.
    I think one of those players will be selected at 18. I am hoping its Earl Thomas. I would not mind selecting any Defensive player at 18 or trading up for Eric Berry as RB suggested.

    I hope it is not Iupati or Pouncey at 18. I think 18 is too high for selecting a Guard/Center.
    Steelers Draft 2015
    Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
    Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
    Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
    Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
    Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
    Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
    Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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