you mention Bettis being one of our leaders... don't forget he was accused of the same thing that Ben was accused of.
We applaud violence on the field, but loathe it off the field.
Maybe we should look in the mirror to see who's the problem.
Ben and Santonio act the same on and off the field.
Why should we expect anything different?
a deal with the devil? what makes you think that?
Originally Posted by birtikidis
And Larry Zeirlein used to watch film of Hartwig being molested by Roethlisberger all the time! We thought forwarding porn via e-mail was bad! No wonder that guy was fired!Originally Posted by birtikidis
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Aggie I wasn't implying you would be ok with a priest being a perv. I think you said something like not "being able to imagine your priest being a pedophile." If it happened I would expect disgust and frustration... Unfortunately there ARE people who make excuses after the fact or blame everyone but the perpetrator.
It's like baseball and Steroids... people trashed Bonds and said if it was their player or team they wouldn't tolerate it or they would boycott baseball. Then Canseco wrote a book and dropped name after name and a few high profile names on the list leaked and all of a sudden the steroid era was OK...
I love the Steelers but I'm not defending behavior or making excuses for stupd decisions the players make off the field.
Bell was fishwhacked, and it was obvious. Where there is piss, there is fire. - Moonie
"I need an old priest & a young priest"...
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...
Originally Posted by flippy
Did you ever play football?
I applauded my own violence on the field. But off the field I conducted myself somewhat respectfully. Granted I wasn't good enough to get away with anything.
I don't think your argument holds water. Again, maybe Ben didn't do anything and he didn't for 99.99% of the night. We know that. But if that .01% was bad, then he should be punished and I won't feel at all bad because I root for violence on the field.
Originally Posted by feltdizz
Frankly, most people came down harder on Bonds because he was a gigantic douche. If it was any other player from that era, say Bonilla, Drabek or Vanslyke, people wouldn't have been as hard.
He also has been hitting roids VERY hard and denying it while giving everyone the finger. Most just duck and cover, he's been an overly defiant fraud. And people tend not to like that.
...And the steroids era is not OK by me. I am one of those that says keep them all out of the Hall. ie Screw them.