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    Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    By John Harris, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, March 16, 2010



    I understand that Kimo von Oelhoffen can be had cheap.

    When I spoke with Dermontti Dawson two months ago, he claimed to be in great shape.

    Franco Harris doesn't look a day older than 50.

    Jerome Bettis has a few miles left on his odometer.

    Joey Porter is still available.

    With Casey Hampton (32), Ryan Clark (30) and Antwaan Randle El (30) signed and 29-year-year old Larry Foote returning to the fold Monday, can veteran free agents Deshea Townsend and Willie Parker be far behind?

    Given the Steelers' sudden and surprising free-agent splurge, every day is Veterans Day on the South Side.

    The Steelers are going retro, bringing back some of their golden oldies in an attempt to restore order in the locker room and calm on the field.

    George Allen's Over-the-Hill-Gang has nothing on Mike Tomlin's 30-and-Over-Crew.

    Six of Tomlin's defensive starters will be 30 or older this season, including five members of his front seven.

    "We don't need to change much," Clark said last week after signing a four-year contract to remain with the Steelers. "We need to stay steady."

    Steady means solid and dependable veteran players who understand Dick LeBeau's 3-4 defense and can pass along knowledge to younger teammates.

    It means playing it safe and not taking chances on the field.

    Being in the right place at the right time.

    It also means keeping the locker room panic-free following a big loss or two or three.

    In 2009, the Steelers salvaged a 9-7 record because of the poise displayed by their veterans late in the season.

    Lastly, it means Tomlin's youth movement, at least for now, has come to a screeching halt.

    With the exception of 27-year-old safety Will Allen, a bit player under Tomlin when he was defensive backs coach in Tampa Bay, none of this year's key free-agent acquisitions were personally selected by Tomlin.

    Hampton, Clark, Randle El and Foote are from the Bill Cowher regime.

    Sure, Hampton, Clark and Foote played under Tomlin, but they're Cowher's players.

    It isn't very often when a coach brings back players who also played for the coach he replaced. But Tomlin has signed four players who fit that description.

    Or is it director of football operations Kevin Colbert, who originally drafted or signed all four of those players, who's really pulling the strings?

    Foote's return casts a shadow over Lawrence Timmons, Tomlin's initial first-round draft pick in 2007.

    Is Foote being brought in as a backup to provide depth at inside linebacker? Is he insurance in case Timmons doesn't hold up physically? Or a carrot to dangle in front of Timmons to keep him motivated?

    Timmons' transition from outside linebacker to inside linebacker has not been smooth.

    At Florida State, Timmons made the splash plays that Tomlin wants his defenders to produce as an edge pass rusher from the outside. He used his speed and quickness to blow up college quarterbacks and running backs.

    With James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley (drafted in the second round the same year as Timmons) starting at outside linebacker, Timmons was forced inside, replacing Foote last season.

    Asked to gain weight to help shed blockers, Timmons displayed flashes of his prodigious talent in 2009 but he seemed better suited on the outside.

    Timmons was the No. 15 overall pick, 10 selections ahead of Jon Beason, a natural inside linebacker who has two Pro Bowls and an All-Pro selection on his resume in three seasons with the Carolina Panthers.

    Perhaps, as Colbert likes telling reporters about mistakes that teams make in the draft, the problem is not with Timmons but the decision-makers who projected he could play inside when he's better suited outside.

    Give Timmons time. He's only 23.

    With Foote returning to the roster, the Steelers can afford to give Timmons all the time he needs.

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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Harris is an idiot. None of the players we signed as free agents will hurt us significantly if we cut them after this season. I think this is an artifact that the Steelers are going all in for this season. They know that if there is no football in 2011 the draft in 2012 will have the equivalent of two years worth of draftees in it. Can get real young in 2012 pretty easy.
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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Harris is an idiot. None of the players we signed as free agents will hurt us significantly if we cut them after this season. I think this is an artifact that the Steelers are going all in for this season. They know that if there is no football in 2011 the draft in 2012 will have the equivalent of two years worth of draftees in it. Can get real young in 2012 pretty easy.
    Yeah, it's not as if we pulled a Cleveland Browns circa 2008 and traded away our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks. Then you can make an argument about abandoning a youth movement. All we've done since the season ended is re-sign players that would have caused the biggest gaping holes in our starting line-up (Hampton and Clark), and signed other vets for depth purposes, which allows up to truly pick the best player available in the draft next month instead of having to reach to fill a particular need. Harris is indeed an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Harris is an idiot.
    We disagree frequently about a number of topics, but we're in total agreement here.

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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Harris is an idiot. None of the players we signed as free agents will hurt us significantly if we cut them after this season. I think this is an artifact that the Steelers are going all in for this season. They know that if there is no football in 2011 the draft in 2012 will have the equivalent of two years worth of draftees in it. Can get real young in 2012 pretty easy.
    there is going to be a 2011 draft even if there is no football. someone posted the link to the article a few days ago.
    but you're right, Harris is an idiot.
    what makes this draft nice is that our top targets can potentially play two spots (spoon inside and outside lb'er, thomas corner and safety, even pouncey can play center and guard.)
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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    I looked up Harris in the dictionary. This is what it said:

    hy·per·bo·le
    –noun
    1.obvious and intentional exaggeration, usually to garner reaction.
    2.idiot

    See also: buffoon, moron, dillweed and benisguilty.


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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Harris is an idiot. None of the players we signed as free agents will hurt us significantly if we cut them after this season. I think this is an artifact that the Steelers are going all in for this season. They know that if there is no football in 2011 the draft in 2012 will have the equivalent of two years worth of draftees in it. Can get real young in 2012 pretty easy.
    there is going to be a 2011 draft even if there is no football. someone posted the link to the article a few days ago.
    but you're right, Harris is an idiot.
    what makes this draft nice is that our top targets can potentially play two spots (spoon inside and outside lb'er, thomas corner and safety, even pouncey can play center and guard.)
    Spiller can play RB, WR, and Return Specialist. His three positions trump any of the player you list with "limited" to two positions.
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    Re: Harris: Steelers abandon youth movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis
    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Harris is an idiot. None of the players we signed as free agents will hurt us significantly if we cut them after this season. I think this is an artifact that the Steelers are going all in for this season. They know that if there is no football in 2011 the draft in 2012 will have the equivalent of two years worth of draftees in it. Can get real young in 2012 pretty easy.
    there is going to be a 2011 draft even if there is no football. someone posted the link to the article a few days ago.
    but you're right, Harris is an idiot.
    what makes this draft nice is that our top targets can potentially play two spots (spoon inside and outside lb'er, thomas corner and safety, even pouncey can play center and guard.)
    Spiller can play RB, WR, and Return Specialist. His three positions trump any of the player you list with "limited" to two positions.
    Okay, then...Weatherspoon can play mack, buck, and OLB...Thomas can play CB, FS, and SS, and Pouncey can play C, RG, and LG. So there. :P

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