1 through 5 all hearsay.Originally Posted by snarkyHere is the thing though, this is going to come down to what a person can testify to in court. You can't testify about another person's state of mind. For instance, you can't say something like "he looked guilty" but you can say "my impression based on his behavior is that he was concerned". On the other hand, one can testify that they saw two men standing outside the bathroom door and that those two men were part of Ben's group that night.Originally Posted by ghettoscottdepends on what "hit her head" means....if she fell down and cracked her skull then yeah, but it could also mean she slipped and hit her head stood back up and laughed it off. If Ben had no idea why the cops were there it leads me to believe she was okay....Originally Posted by Jom112Well if he was in the bathroom with a tipsy 20 year old, fooling around, and then she fell and hit her head and he thought nothing of it at all, that is even more telling...Originally Posted by ghettoscottThis quote is more telling.....Originally Posted by One club patronOne club patron was perched just outside the closed-off area but had a clean view of Roethlisberger, and said other than not letting any males back there, he didn't notice anything out of the ordinary -- until the police arrived around 2:30 am.
"He was as surprised as anybody," a college student at Georgia College & State University told FanHouse on condition of anonymity, since he was not legally supposed be in the bar after the 2 a.m. last call. "I don't think Ben had any idea what it was all about."
This is really stacking up badly for Ben. Consider the things that people seem ready to testify to:
1. He purchased shots for underage women.
2. He used coarse and derogatory language towards these women
3. He followed her into a bathroom and had people from his group guard the door
4. While in the bathroom he committed some sort of sexual assaut
5. While in the bathroom she suffered a head injury
Now the meat of the matter is number 4 and possibly number 5 is there is disptue regarding how she was injured. But in a he-said, she-said case I would imagine a lot depends on how much a jury 'likes' or is comfortable with the accuser. 1-3 are not going to help.