Ben speaks

[Chadman]

Maybe she fell & hit her head because she was drunk?

[Dee Dub]

What??? If this is true then Ben is a real idiot. In light of his pending civil suit and for him to go into a club and put himself in this position is hard to stomach. Again if this is true...then in my opinion Ben has a real big problem.

So it may have been a hug and Ben is a criminal in your mind?

Come on man...some sexual contact isnt a hug..and I upset that Ben would ever put himself in this type of situation for a second time. And quite frankly..I see a problem here.

[Lebsteel]

Maybe she fell & hit her head because she was drunk?

Could very well be the reason. But if it is true that Ben is admitting to consentual sexual contact, then he is already guilty of incredibly bad judgment to accept that kind of "offer" from a young girl in a bar.

[JAR]

What??? If this is true then Ben is a real idiot. In light of his pending civil suit and for him to go into a club and put himself in this position is hard to stomach. Again if this is true...then in my opinion Ben has a real big problem.

So it may have been a hug and Ben is a criminal in your mind?

JAR, is that what you really think he meant by sexual contact? I didn't think so. We'll wait and see, maybe it was only a hug, but I think Hawaiian 's emoticon is probably more accurate.

An unwanted hug could be considered sexual assault, as could a simple pat on the butt. We don't know what happened and the people condemning Ben before any fact has even surfaced is just BS. Should Ben be in jail for playing tonsil hockey in a bar?

[snarky]

This business about her hitting her head is, for me, the most concerning thing so far.

[JAR]

VIP room.

bottles can be sent in.

So customers are responsible for the under agers not drinking?

[snarky]

VIP room.

bottles can be sent in.

So customers are responsible for the under agers not drinking?

Customers are responsible for not giving alcoholic beverages that are in their control to people under age.

Say a couple takes their children into a restaurant and orders a bottle fo wine. Should the waiter be responsible for serving minors if the parents pour some wine for their kids?

If a bartender served a beer to Ben and Ben then passed the beer to an under age person, who served the beer illegally? Certainly not the bartender.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

VIP room.

bottles can be sent in.

So customers are responsible for the under agers not drinking?

if ben rented the VIP room, yes.

pictures without that wristband could go a long way in bens favor.

[Shawn]

VIP room.

bottles can be sent in.

So customers are responsible for the under agers not drinking?

Customers are responsible for not giving alcoholic beverages that are in their control to people under age.

Say a couple takes their children into a restaurant and orders a bottle fo wine. Should the waiter be responsible for serving minors if the parents pour some wine for their kids?

If a bartender served a beer to Ben and Ben then passed the beer to an under age person, who served the beer illegally? Certainly not the bartender.

Actually parents are allowed to serve their children alcohol.

Two-thirds of states in the U.S. permit people under the age of 21 to drink alcohol under certain conditions, such as under the supervision of their parents or guardians.

[url="http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthIssues/20071112204048.html"]http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthI ... 04048.html[/url]

[Shawn]

they should subpoena her and her witnesses cell phone records to see if they texted each other and were searching stuff out on the internet about Ben...could come up with a scenario where they came up with the whole thing through texting.

Good thought.