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    What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    In light of his past, why would Big Ben put himself in that situation last Friday morning?


    By Jemele Hill
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    Let's begin with the usual platitudes: Ben Roethlisberger is innocent until proved guilty. So far, the two-time Super Bowl champion has not been charged with a crime, though police in a small Georgia college town are continuing to investigate the allegation that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted a 20-year-old college student in a bar bathroom early Friday morning.

    And with that out of the way, let me pose the question that has plagued many of us since hearing the news that Roethlisberger is the subject of sexual assault allegations for the second time in eight months: Why is a 28-year-old quarterback with a $100 million contract putting himself at risk by socializing and drinking in a club with college kids?

    Roethlisberger can be trusted in the waning seconds with the game on the line, but after this most recent accusation it's an understatement to suggest that his judgment in real life might not be nearly as reliable.

    He's poised and prepared on the field, and he produces. But Ben Roethlisberger's judgment off the field has been questionable.

    I am not one of those people who believes athletes should have to stay confined to their homes, but after a hotel worker served Roethlisberger with a civil suit last summer accusing him of raping her at a Lake Tahoe hotel in 2008, he should have been smart enough to realize the rules have changed for him.

    In other words, the first incident officially put bar-hopping in Milledgeville, Ga., on his "to-don't" list.

    I understand that Roethlisberger is single and that clubbing isn't illegal, but if he couldn't see that mixing alcohol, college women, his celebrity and the nightclub scene was courting disaster, he might not be worthy of being the franchise quarterback for one of the most well-run organizations in professional sports.

    I know that sounds harsh. If you hold a magnifying glass to Roethlisberger's track record, though, there are definitely some red flags pointing to the fact that he still needs to grow up. Until now, he's received the benefit of the doubt about his maturity. But that officially ended when this criminal investigation began.

    It can't be forgotten that Roethlisberger, the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl, nearly killed himself in a motorcycle accident in June 2006 because he wasn't wearing a helmet, which his then-coach Bill Cowher had insisted he do. Roethlisberger didn't even have a valid Pennsylvania motorcycle license at the time.

    That, supposedly, was his wake-up call to become more responsible. When he left the hospital after suffering serious injuries, he said in a statement, "In the past few days, I've gained a new perspective on life."

    If that perspective was intended to be mature and enlightened, it apparently didn't stick.

    Even with so much to lose, Roethlisberger has continued to behave too much like a frat boy and not enough like the face of his organization.

    He has a reputation in Pittsburgh for trying to skip out on his restaurant tabs, according to news reports. There is also a picture of Roethlisberger on the Internet wearing a T-shirt that says "Drink Like A Champion."

    And the drink isn't milk.

    Several people who saw Roethlisberger out in Milledgeville the other night reported that he bought himself and others shots called "O-Bombs," a flavored rum-and-energy drink mixture. Inside the club where the assault allegedly occurred, according to a report from ESPN's Kelly Naqi, Roethlisberger and his friends were inviting women they didn't know into their VIP area and offering them free drinks.

    A good night if your name is Ben Smith. Totally idiotic if you're Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

    There's a reason you never hear about Tom Brady partying in bars or clubs, or have yet to see any unflattering photos of him on the Internet. That isn't to say Brady is perfect, but he seems to understand that he's a brand worth millions and that he has too much at stake to put himself in situations in which he'd be the one who loses out. Derek Jeter is Mr. Social and a serial dater, but you've never heard his name associated with any controversy, despite living in New York City for more than a decade.

    Roethlisberger apparently didn't understand that his high-profile status mixed with the pending civil case meant he could no longer afford to maintain social habits that mirror those of Bluto from "Animal House." At the minimum, he should have realized he became a potential target the moment that civil case was filed.

    In that case, Roethlisberger has admitted that he and Andrea McNulty -- the woman who filed the civil case against him in Nevada -- had consensual sex. McNulty's lawyer has already indicated to TMZ that he will be watching the developments in Georgia very closely.

    Roethlisberger's reputation has taken a major hit, and I wouldn't blame the Rooney family if they're having second thoughts today about the $102 million investment they made in him. A good quarterback is supposed to see the entire field and anticipate plays before they happen. It seems as if this quarterback's vision leaves much to be desired.

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    Re: What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    this all depends on whether you think Big Ben or Little Ben was doing the thinking...

    when i was 28, i'm not sure my big head was doing the thinking at all times either.

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    Re: What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    this all depends on whether you think Big Ben or Little Ben was doing the thinking...

    when i was 28, i'm not sure my big head was doing the thinking at all times either.
    It doesn't matter what we think. All that matters is that Ben is a target and he must use restraint no matter how much his hormones pop. 18, 28, 108 does not matter. I am sure you did not have a job for a company getting paid $100 mill at 28 either.

    Even 50 year old senators do dumb things and get caught and pay the price. Age matters not. Just ask John Edwards and a host of other political leaders.

    Ben got a second chance and blew it, innocent or not.
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    Ben wasn't thinking. As great as he is on the field off the field he has a serious common sense issue. He isn't a college boy anymore. Act like an adult.
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    Re: What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    Quote Originally Posted by California-Steel
    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
    this all depends on whether you think Big Ben or Little Ben was doing the thinking...

    when i was 28, i'm not sure my big head was doing the thinking at all times either.
    It doesn't matter what we think. All that matters is that Ben is a target and he must use restraint no matter how much his hormones pop. 18, 28, 108 does not matter. I am sure you did not have a job for a company getting paid $100 mill at 28 either.

    Even 50 year old senators do dumb things and get caught and pay the price. Age matters not. Just ask John Edwards and a host of other political leaders.

    Ben got a second chance and blew it, innocent or not.
    How many of those political leaders were single when they got caught?

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    Re: What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    ALLEGED....ACCUSED...


    Not CONVICTED...PROOF...


    Saying Ben acted irresponsibly when there is no proof of it is, well, irresponsible on those willing to make that statement.

    You simply cannot expect anyone to completely shelter themselves from contact with the outside world on the off chance they might get accused of something.

    If so, if that is what we demand, then what the hell is the point of trying to be a successful athlete in this world? Sure- you can be a favourite with people on Sunday, but you sure as Hell better be at home in Bed Monday through to Saturday so that we don't have to think you might have the possibility of human failings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    ALLEGED....ACCUSED...


    Not CONVICTED...PROOF...


    Saying Ben acted irresponsibly when there is no proof of it is, well, irresponsible on those willing to make that statement.

    You simply cannot expect anyone to completely shelter themselves from contact with the outside world on the off chance they might get accused of something.
    Where did the article say Ben had to completely shelter himself from contact with the outside world?

    I agree with you, innocent of any crime until proven guilty. But I agree with the author of the article, Ben appears to be lacking in the area of his off-the-field judgment. I hope it doesn't come to it, but Steelers' ownership may well decide to pull their big investment in Big Ben.

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    Re: What was Ben Roethlisberger thinking?!

    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman
    ALLEGED....ACCUSED...


    Not CONVICTED...PROOF...


    Saying Ben acted irresponsibly when there is no proof of it is, well, irresponsible on those willing to make that statement.

    You simply cannot expect anyone to completely shelter themselves from contact with the outside world on the off chance they might get accused of something.
    Where did the article say Ben had to completely shelter himself from contact with the outside world?

    I agree with you, innocent of any crime until proven guilty. But I agree with the author of the article, Ben appears to be lacking in the area of his off-the-field judgment. I hope it doesn't come to it, but Steelers' ownership may well decide to pull their big investment in Big Ben.
    It doesn't say he needs to, but if we are going to label him as having poor judgement every time he goes out, I'm saying there is no situation in the 'outside world' that can't lead to an accusation. The only way to protect himself is to have no contact with anyone. Only then will some people think Ben shows proper judgement.

    Answer this- read the chronolgy of events for the night of the accusation. Then, remove the accusation from the nights events. And then ask yourself if Ben showed poor judgement, based on the other situations he was involved in that night. If the accusation proves to be false, what has Ben done wrong, exactly?
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    Im amazed that otherwise intelligent people on this board completely stick their heads in the sand when it comes to Ben not using good judgment. Hes not you and I when we were 28 (or if youre in your 20s now). Hes not an anonymous guy trying to pick up tail. Hes a celebrity and public figure lots of perks but also restraints. Hes got a target on him, which has now grown exponentially.

    The Steelers are known for the Rooneys (one of Footballs finest families), championships, stability, as a keystone franchise in the NFL, solid personnel on and off the field. This is just nonsense. Ben is lucky beyond belief. He was born with a golden lottery ticket in his hand size, athletic ability. Hes got 2 Super Bowls, hes financially set for life, with the real possibility of another 50+ million dollar contract, and hes only 28. Hell spend the rest of his life in luxury. Get your head out of your a$$.

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    Ghost, this blind support of Ben and his judgement is scary. No one is saying Ben can't live.. but he can't live like we do. People keep comparing their lives to Ben like they get hounded for autographs and won a SB in dramatic fashion. Funny how none of them have been accused of sexual assault or had a chick try to take their thousands because they were a target.

    I know I will get flamed for this... but here it goes.

    Ben loves BA and wants to keep him around. A ton of people hate BA but refuse to blame Ben for vouching for the guy or Ben's choices on the field that result in incompletions or sacks. They applaud the good but lump the bad on the OC. I think most of those fans will never see Ben making a mistake or having poor judgement off the field. He can ride without a helmet(it's no illegal), he can have sex with the hotel staff(she wasn't hot but she was breathing)... and he can bar hop in a small college town with broke and under the drinking age chicks because it's legal(who cares if he is connected to a civil trial with the word RAPE next to his name).

    Why? Because he is just like us... and he wasn't "charged" in the first trial and it was sexual assault not rape. The "difference" in those 2 words are clearly enough to let Ben do whatever the hell he wants. Those who are disappointed in Ben don't realize he will be found innocent and this will all go away.

    Sarcasm intended...

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