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    Stephan Logan

    Am wondering whether he stays on next season? He is currently 4th in the league on return yards but I am not sure he is really worth the roster spot. I think he is under-utilized and could be effective in our offense. He is not big and goes down pretty easily but if he can find a seam on a sweep for example, he could gain some nice yards. Also have not heard the reason why he is not returning punts full time, seems Moore or Holmes have been back there.

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    Re: Stephan Logan

    Logan now has the team record for kick return yards in a season (surpassing Ernie Mills' record in 1995, I think...they announced it on the Jumbotron during the game).

    They tend to use Moore on punt return when the punt is expected to land deep in our own territory (Moore has sure hands for fair-catches inside our own 20 yard line, and the smarts to know when to let it bounce inside the 5 yard line for a possible touchback).

    They only used Holmes once or twice on punt returns this season in an effort to create a spark to get us out of our prolonged losing streak. He hasn't been back there since, and they even seem to be using Logan more often now deep in our own territory where we used Moore for most of the season.

    It was nice to see Logan get his first taste on offense with a WR screen recently, and that set up a play in this Baltimore game perfectly. When they lined up Logan to Ben's right behind a couple of blocking WR's, the Ravens overloaded to that side, expecting another quick screen pass to Logan. I looked over and saw Santonio one-on-one on the other side, and said to my son "they are setting the Ravens up...he's going to throw it to Holmes on the left side" and that is exactly what they did. Great call.


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    Re: Stephan Logan

    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Logan now has the team record for kick return yards in a season (surpassing Ernie Mills' record in 1995, I think...they announced it on the Jumbotron during the game).

    They tend to use Moore on punt return when the punt is expected to land deep in our own territory (Moore has sure hands for fair-catches inside our own 20 yard line, and the smarts to know when to let it bounce inside the 5 yard line for a possible touchback).

    They only used Holmes once or twice on punt returns this season in an effort to create a spark to get us out of our prolonged losing streak. He hasn't been back there since, and they even seem to be using Logan more often now deep in our own territory where we used Moore for most of the season.

    It was nice to see Logan get his first taste on offense with a WR screen recently, and that set up a play in this Baltimore game perfectly. When they lined up Logan to Ben's right behind a couple of blocking WR's, the Ravens overloaded to that side, expecting another quick screen pass to Logan. I looked over and saw Santonio one-on-one on the other side, and said to my son "they are setting the Ravens up...he's going to throw it to Holmes on the left side" and that is exactly what they did. Great call.
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    Re: Stephan Logan

    I haven't been a huge Logan fan. I see that stats and ask myself how that happened. He is solid...catches the ball...secures the ball and makes yards. I guess I'm being picky. He is certainly an improvement over what we have had. With that said, no one fears Logan. He isn't Cribbs. I would love to either have a specialist that is truly special or draft a guy who can contribute in multiple places.

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    Re: Stephan Logan

    He had some issues earlier in the season, but he seems to be solid. If he can be used more on Offense he's definitley worth keeping, IMO.

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    Re: Stephan Logan

    I would prefer a position player over Logan the KO return specialist. You can't have enough bodies during a 16 week season. He had some real nice returns that set the Steelers' offense up nicely, but, to me a KO return specialist is a luxury and not a need.

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    Re: Stephan Logan

    To those saying having a kick return specialist isn't worth it.....do you also think we should unload Anthony Madison again.....since the only time he steps on the field is during kickoffs/punts?
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    Re: Stephan Logan

    Quote Originally Posted by papillon
    I would prefer a position player over Logan the KO return specialist. You can't have enough bodies during a 16 week season. He had some real nice returns that set the Steelers' offense up nicely, but, to me a KO return specialist is a luxury and not a need.

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    He is a position player... he is a WR.
    He is as much of a WR as Madision is a CB.

    Why do people think a KR/PR is a luxury but a gunner isn't?

    That being said, he isn't a Josh Cribbs on returns.
    And... I think he could be factored into the offense more with experience and an offensive coordinator that had an imagination
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    Re: Stephan Logan

    Quote Originally Posted by MeetJoeGreene
    Quote Originally Posted by papillon
    I would prefer a position player over Logan the KO return specialist. You can't have enough bodies during a 16 week season. He had some real nice returns that set the Steelers' offense up nicely, but, to me a KO return specialist is a luxury and not a need.

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    He is a position player... he is a WR.
    He is as much of a WR as Madision is a CB.

    Why do people think a KR/PR is a luxury but a gunner isn't?

    That being said, he isn't a Josh Cribbs on returns.
    And... I think he could be factored into the offense more with experience and an offensive coordinator that had an imagination
    ... or at least some abstract reasoning capability.

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    Re: Stephan Logan

    Quote Originally Posted by MeetJoeGreene
    Quote Originally Posted by papillon
    I would prefer a position player over Logan the KO return specialist. You can't have enough bodies during a 16 week season. He had some real nice returns that set the Steelers' offense up nicely, but, to me a KO return specialist is a luxury and not a need.

    Pappy
    He is a position player... he is a WR.
    He is as much of a WR as Madision is a CB.

    Why do people think a KR/PR is a luxury but a gunner isn't?

    That being said, he isn't a Josh Cribbs on returns.
    And... I think he could be factored into the offense more with experience and an offensive coordinator that had an imagination
    I'll never understand the "he's no Josh Cribbs" argument we always hear about Logan. No kidding! No one is! Cribbs has 10 returns for TD's in his 5 seasons in the league (8 on KR's and 2 on PR, including 3 on KR's and 1 on PR's this season). It's like the people on the board here that say "we need an Andre Johnson type WR." Yeah, so does every other team. That's what happens when you compare a guy to the best in the business.

    Guess what, though...in Cribbs' first season in the league, he had 45 kick returns for 1094 yards (24.3 avg) and 1 TD. In Logan's first season in the league, he has 52 kick returns for 1,383 yards (26.6 avg) and 0 TD. He's also returned 28 punts for 239 yards (8.5 avg) in his first season, while Cribbs only returned 1 punt for 5 yards in his first season. As a first year return man, Logan was a better all-around return man than Cribbs was. I wonder if Browns fans were debating whether or not it was worth holding a roster spot for a specialist like Cribbs in '06 after his '05 season?


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