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    I just don't see where a team can compete!

    Looking at the depth charts from the Steelers and the divsional opponents it is clear that the other teams in the divsion just don't have the depth to compete! Sorry it is long but you will see what I am talking about! Take a look! From what I can see the Bengals look like the team with the most depth besides the Steelers, on paper they actually look like a team that can compete! We'll see if that is the case. The Stains are thin everywhere, last year was like '05 for the Bungles but they didn't even make the playoffs, go figure! The Ravens have some decent talent but that passing game is going to be no where near good enough to challenge for a playoff spot this year!

    2008 Pittsburgh Steelers: (1st AFC North 12-4)
    Offense:
    QB: Ben Roethlisberger Charlie Batch Dennis Dixon
    RB: Willie Parker Rashard Mendenhall Mewelde Moore Gary Russell
    FB: Carey Davis
    WR: Hines Ward Limas Sweed Dallas Baker
    WR: Santonio Holmes Nate Washingon Willie Reid
    TE: Heath Miller Matt Spaeth Jon Dekker
    LT: Marvel Smith Max Starks Tony Hills
    LG: Chris Kemoeatu Sean Mahan
    C: Justin Hartwig Darnell Stapleton
    RG: Kendall Simmons Sean Mahan
    RT: Willie Colon Max Starks Trai Essex

    Defense:
    LE: Aaron Smith Travis Kirschke Kyle Clement
    NT: Casey Hampton Chris Hoke
    RE: Brett Keisel Ryan McBean
    LOLB: Lamarr Woodley Keyaron Fox Arnold Harrison
    LILB: James Farrior Mike Humpal
    RILB: Lawrence Timmons Larry Foote
    ROLB: James Harrison Bruce Davis
    LCB: Ike Taylor William Gay
    RCB: Bryant McFadden Deshea Townsend Anthony Madison
    SS: Troy Polamalu Anthony Smith
    FS: Ryan Clark Tyrone Carter

    Specialists:
    K: Jeff Reed
    LS: Greg Warren
    P: Daniel Sepulveda
    Head Coach: Mike Tomlin

    2008 Cleveland Browns: (2nd Place AFC North 7-9)
    Offense:
    QB: Derek Anderson Brady Quinn Ken Dorsey
    RB: Jamal Lewis Jason Wright Jerome Harrison
    FB: Lawrence Vickers Charles Ali
    WR: Braylon Edwards Joshua Cribbs Travis Wilson
    WR: Donte Stallworth Kevin Kasper Paul Hubbard
    TE: Kellen Winslow Jr. Steve Heiden Martin Rucker
    LT: Joe Thomas Kevin Shaffer
    LG: Eric Steinbach Lennie Freidman
    C: Hank Fraley Rex Hadnot
    RG: Rex Hadnot Issac Sowells
    RT: Kevin Shaffer Ryan Tucker

    Defense:
    LE: Corey William Shaun Smith Chase Pittman
    NT: Shaun Rogers Shaun Smith Ahtyba Rubin
    RE: Robaire Smith Shaun Smith
    LOLB: Willie McGinest Antwan Peek
    LILB: Andra Davis Beau Bell
    RILB: D’Qwell Jackson Leon Williams
    OLB: Kamerion Wimbley Shantee Orr
    LCB: Eric Wright Terry Cousins
    RCB: Brandon McDonald A.J. Davis Steve Cargile
    SS: Sean Jones Nick Sorenson
    FS: Brodney Pool Mike Adams Gary Baxter

    Specialists:
    K: Phil Dawson
    LS: Ryan Pontbriand
    P: Dave Zastudil
    Head Coach: Romeo Crennel

    2008 Cincinnati Bengals: (3rd Place AFC North 7-9)
    Offense:
    QB: Carson Palmer Ryan Fitzpatrick Jordan Palmer
    RB: Rudi Johnson Kenny Watson Chris Perry Kenny Irons
    FB: Jeremi Johnson
    WR: Chad Johnson Jerome Simpson Glenn Holt
    WR: T.J. Houshmandzadeh Doug Gabriel Andre Caldwell
    TE: Ben Utecht Reggie Kelly Matt Sherry
    LT: Levi Jones Anthony Collins
    LG: Andrew Whitworth Bobbie Williams
    C: Dan Santucci Eric Ghiaciuc
    RG: Stacey Andrews Bobbie Williams
    RT: Willie Anderson Stacy Andrews Scott Kooistra

    Defense:
    LE: Robert Geathers Frostee Rucker
    LT: Domata Peko Pat Sims
    RT: Michael Myers John Thornton Jason Shirley
    RE: Antwan Odom Jonathan Fanene
    WLB: Keith Rivers Erin Henderson Darryl Blackstock
    MLB: Ahmad Brooks Dhani Jones
    SLB: Dhani Jones Rashad Jeanty
    LCB: Jonathan Joseph Delthea O’Neal
    RCB: Leon Hall David Jones
    SS: Chinedum Ndukwe Dexter Jackson
    FS: Marvin White Corey Lynch Ethan Kilmer

    Specialists:
    K: Shayne Graham
    LS: Brad St. Louis
    P: Kyle Larson
    Head Coach: Marvin Lewis

    2008 Baltimore Ravens: (4th Place AFC North 5-11)
    Offense:
    QB: Kyle Boller Troy Smith Joe Flacco
    RB: Willis McGahee Ray Rice Cory Ross
    FB: Le’Ron McClain Justin Greene
    WR: Derrick Mason Demetrius Williams Justin Harper
    WR: Mark Clayton Yamon Figurs
    TE: Todd Heap Daniel Wilcox Lee Vickers
    LT: Jared Gaither David Hale
    LG: Jason Brown Oniel Cousins
    C: Chris Chester Jason Brown
    RG: Ben Grubbs Marshall Yanda
    RT: Adam Terry Marshall Yanda

    Defense:
    DT: Haloti Ngata Amon Gordon
    NT: Kelly Gregg Justin Bannan
    RE: Trevor Pryce Dwan Edwards
    LOLB: Terrell Suggs Antwan Barnes Brendon Ayanbadejo
    LILB: Ray Lewis Prescott Burgess
    RILB: Bart Scott Antwan Barnes
    ROLB: Jarrett Johnson Tavares Gooden
    LCB: Chris McAllister Cory Ivy David Pittman
    RCB: Fabian Washington Samari Rolle
    SS: Dawan Landry Jim Leonhard
    FS: Ed Reed Tom Zbikowski

    Specialists:
    K: Matt Stover
    P: Sam Koch
    LS: Matt Katula
    Head Coach: John Harbaugh


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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    Sorry guys I went in and tried to space all of this out but the site constricted it back with out spaces, my bad!
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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    Quote Originally Posted by AkronSteel
    Sorry guys I went in and tried to space all of this out but the site constricted it back with out spaces, my bad!
    Thats ok.We all pretty much understand that the premise of your post is that the Bungles,Brownies and Ratbirds all suck!!!

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    They compete at most arrests in a season.

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    Quote Originally Posted by NorCal-Steeler
    They compete at most arrests in a season.
    ..... Yes they do....

    Akron, I'm not sure why that is, but it deletes spaces on mine as well when posting stats. Try using "..." in between them, and it works pretty good....

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    The Steelers are clearly the deepest and most experienced team in the AFC North.

    No one can match the Steelers running game. And some of these teams have the same guy backing up all their positions at certain areas (i.e. check the Clowns pass rush). More than one injury at an area could spell disaster.

    The big concern for the Steelers going into camp is how the line will shake out. You have two guys playing for a contract. Another coming in with a big contract. The rest are largely undistinguished (with the exception of Simmons) and are looking to make their mark with the Black and Gold. And they are only missing Faneca, which could be a good thing for a young group like this OL.

    I think if guys like Kemo and Colon can raise the level of their game and have Hills, Capizzi, and, even, Mahan push and compete, then I think the Steelers will be in good shape. That's particularly true if Smith, Simmons and Hartwig all play to expectations and Max Sucks gets his head out of his rectal cavity.
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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    Quote Originally Posted by AkronSteel
    2008 Cincinnati Bengals: (3rd Place AFC North 7-9)
    Offense:
    QB: Carson Palmer Ryan Fitzpatrick Jordan Palmer
    RB: Rudi Johnson Kenny Watson Chris Perry Kenny Irons
    FB: Jeremi Johnson
    WR: Chad Johnson Jerome Simpson Glenn Holt
    WR: T.J. Houshmandzadeh Doug Gabriel Andre Caldwell
    TE: Ben Utecht Reggie Kelly Matt Sherry
    LT: Levi Jones Anthony Collins
    LG: Andrew Whitworth Bobbie Williams
    C: Dan Santucci Eric Ghiaciuc
    RG: Stacey Andrews Bobbie Williams
    RT: Willie Anderson Stacy Andrews Scott Kooistra

    Defense:
    LE: Robert Geathers Frostee Rucker
    LT: Domata Peko Pat Sims
    RT: Michael Myers John Thornton Jason Shirley
    RE: Antwan Odom Jonathan Fanene
    WLB: Keith Rivers Erin Henderson Darryl Blackstock
    MLB: Ahmad Brooks Dhani Jones
    SLB: Dhani Jones Rashad Jeanty
    LCB: Jonathan Joseph Delthea O’Neal
    RCB: Leon Hall David Jones
    SS: Chinedum Ndukwe Dexter Jackson
    FS: Marvin White Corey Lynch Ethan Kilmer

    Specialists:
    K: Shayne Graham
    LS: Brad St. Louis
    P: Kyle Larson
    Head Coach: Marvin Lewis
    A couple of things to update:

    QB: Carson Palmer Ryan Fitzpatrick Jeff Rowe (Jordan Palmer will most likely be waived)

    WR: Chad Johnson Antonio Chatman Jerome Simpson
    WR: T.J. Houshmandzadeh Andre Caldwell (Doug Gabriel has already been waived) Glenn Holt/Marcus Maxwell

    Caldwell and Chatman will be ahead of Simpson when the season starts unless he really steps it up in Training Camp.


    LT: Levi Jones Anthony Collins
    LG: Andrew Whitworth Bobbie Williams
    C: Dan Santucci Eric Ghiaciuc
    RG: Stacey Andrews Bobbie Williams
    RT: Willie Anderson Stacy Andrews Scott Kooistra

    No way Bobbie Williams is not the starting RG. He probably has the most job security on the O-Line. Also Eric Ghiaciuc will be the starting center. Stantucci is actually struggling thus far this preseason and was replaced as the #2 center by Bobbie Williams because he was doing so bad.


    LT: Domata Peko Pat Sims
    RT: Michael Myers John Thornton Jason Shirley

    I wish Mike Myers got more playing time last season but this season he might not even make the team. Although I'm a fan of his he won't be starting. It will probably look more like:

    LT: Domata Peko Jason Shirley Mike Myers
    RT: Pat Sims John Thornton

    With Jonathan Fanene playing DT and DE. He's bulked up to 300 lbs., so he should do better at the DT position this season...

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    i still have my doubts about next season. on paper this team looks awsome but who knows. it seems every offseason i get my hopes sky high and im some what dissapointed at the end of the year. everything all comes down to the o-line though. if they can be only average than i think the steelers will be an elite team, however being an average line might be a task in itself

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    In light of this thread, I thought the following article was interesting. It talks about the teams with the most depth, that could best sustain an injury to one of the starters.

    http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story?i ... nfirm=true

    I won't post the entire article, but the final gist was:

    Here are the top five teams when it comes to depth:
    Rk - Team - No. 2 QB - No. 2 RB - No. 3 OT - No. 3 WR - No. 2 OG/C - No. 2 TE No. 3 DT - Nickle CB - No. 3 safety
    1 Vikings - Gus Frerotte - Chester Taylor - Marcus Johnson - Bobby Wade - Maurice Hicks - Jim Kleinsasser - Ellis Wyms - Marcus McCauley - Tyrell Johnson
    2 Bucs - Brian Griese - Earnest Graham - Donald Penn - Maurice Stovall - Dan Buenning - Ben Troupe - Ryan Sims - Aqib Talib - Eugene Wilson
    3 Steelers - Charlie Batch - Rashard Mendenhall - Willie Colon - Limas Sweed - Sean Mahan - Matt Spaeth - Chris Hoke - Bryant McFadden - Anthony Smith
    4 Redskins - Todd Collins - Ladell Betts - Todd Wade - Devin Thomas - Jason Fabini - Fred Davis - Kedric Gholston - Fred Smoot - Stuart Schweigart
    5 Eagles - A.J. Feeley - Correll Buckhalter - Winston Justice - Hank Baskett - Max Jean-Gilles - Kris Wilson - Trevor Laws - Lito Sheppard - J.R. Reed


    Edit: Sorry, Burgh86, didn't see your thread on this same topic.

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    Re: I just don't see where a team can compete!

    So, if all the starters in the league get hurt, we've got a chance....

    Meanwhile, since only starers play... I hate to admit it, but, Clevelands team looks like serious competition.

    Ben > Anderson
    Parker > Lewis
    Our o-line < their o-line

    Braylon Edwards + Donte Stallworth is very comparable to Ward and Holmes. In fact, your average (non-biased) joe would likely give them the edge in that matchup. Throw in winslow and it's them in a landslide.

    Looking at defense, they certainly have a lot of veteran names that, if they play up to their potential, could give us fits.

    Reading their roster, actually made me more worried...
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