Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies
Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
Quote Originally Posted by ShawnMedGuy

Last time I checked...passer ratings and stats are indeed facts. Another fact...Ben has been in significantly more playoff games and has won a SB. So, if stats and accomplishments don't determine skill...what does? Please give me some "facts" that would allow us to assess Carsons "skill".
So you pick at one line if the whole post and focus on that? And semantics nonetheless.

That comment was made because "passer rating" in the fourth quarter doesnt take into account running the clock out at the end of games or spiking the football. If you look at the actual game logs then you can see how Carson performed.

So while I agree passer ratings are facts, the actual game logs would be a better indication of how Carson actually did in those games, wouldn't you agree?
Bengals vs Bills I pick this game cause I can remember losing a bet on the Bengals.

4th QTR (Bengals up 21 -16 start of 4TH QTR)

9-R.Lindell kicks 75 yards from BUF 30 to CIN -5. 16-G.Holt, Touchback.
1-10-CIN 20 (13:54) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete deep right to 85-C.Johnson (56-K.Ellison, 37-G.Wilson). Pass tipped at CIN 32 by K.Ellison, nearly intercepted by G.Wilson at CIN 37.
2-10-CIN 20 (13:47) 33-K.Watson right guard to CIN 22 for 2 yards (37-G.Wilson).
3-8-CIN 22 (13:05) (Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete
Larson punts

1-10-CIN 8 (11:24) 32-R.Johnson left guard to CIN 5 for -3 yards (90-C.Kelsay).
2-13-CIN 5 (10:46) 9-C.Palmer pass short left to 82-R.Kelly to CIN 13 for 8 yards (33-J.Greer, 55-A.Crowell). Caught in flat at CIN 10.
3-5-CIN 13 (10:0 (Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete
Larson punts

1-10-CIN 26 (5:45) 9-C.Palmer pass short left to 33-K.Watson to CIN 38 for 12 yards (55-A.Crowell). Screen, caught at CIN 27.
1-10-CIN 38 (5:12) (No Huddle) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short middle to 16-G.Holt [27-C.Wire]. Underthrown, receiver at CIN 48.
2-10-CIN 38 (5:0 (No Huddle) 33-K.Watson left guard to CIN 41 for 3 yards (93-A.Hargrove, 37-G.Wilson).
3-7-CIN 41 (4:26) (Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short right to 16-G.Holt (24-T.McGee). Receiver and coverage along sideline at CIN 46. Pressure on QB: A.Hargrove.
Larson punts

4th possession in 4th QTR , Buffalo now plays prevent

1-10-CIN 22 (2:14) 9-C.Palmer scrambles right end pushed ob at CIN 29 for 7 yards (55-A.Crowell).
2-3-CIN 29 (2:06) 9-C.Palmer pass short middle to 86-D.Coats to CIN 39 for 10 yards (93-A.Hargrove; 55-A.Crowell). Caught at CIN 36.
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-CIN 39 (1:59) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete deep left to 85-C.Johnson. CIN-85-C.Johnson was injured during the play. Removed from field on stretcher. Thrown wide of receiver at BUF 38.
Timeout #3 by CIN at 01:53.
2-10-CIN 39 (1:53) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short middle (97-J.McCargo). Pass batted at line.
3-10-CIN 39 (1:4 (Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass short left to 33-K.Watson pushed ob at BUF 45 for 16 yards (94-A.Schobel). Screen, caught at CIN 34.
1-10-BUF 45 (1:41) 9-C.Palmer pass short middle to 86-D.Coats to BUF 36 for 9 yards (25-K.Thomas, 93-A.Hargrove). Caught at BUF37.
2-1-BUF 36 (1:21) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass short right to 33-K.Watson to BUF 28 for 8 yards (55-A.Crowell).
1-10-BUF 28 (:56) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short left to 84-T.Houshmandzadeh. Dropped, receiver in flat at BUF 22.
2-10-BUF 28 (:51) 9-C.Palmer pass short middle to 27-D.Dorsey to BUF 19 for 9 yards (55-A.Crowell). Dump pass, caught at BUF 25.
3-1-BUF 19 (:29) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 9-C.Palmer pass short middle to 10-M.Maxwell to BUF 14 for 5 yards (33-J.Greer). Slant pattern, caught at BUF 14.
1-10-BUF 14 (:1 9-C.Palmer spiked the ball to stop the clock.
2-10-BUF 14 (:1 9-C.Palmer pass short left intended for 10-M.Maxwell INTERCEPTED by 25-K.Thomas at BUF 4. 25-K.Thomas to BUF 12 for 8 yards (10-M.Maxwell).

Losman kneels.
Great work again!!