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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    [quote=Mr Smartmonies]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Smartmonies":38hyyslj
    NFL Leaders: Interceptions, 2nd Half OF GAMES 2007



    1 Carson Palmer Cin 11 (eh, Blame it on the Bengals defense)
    2t Jay Cutler Den 10
    2t Gus Frerotte StL 10
    2t Eli Manning NYG 10
    5t Drew Brees NO 9
    5t Marc Bulger StL 9
    5t Damon Huard KC 9
    5t Jon Kitna Det 9
    5t Sage Rosenfels Hou 9
    5t Vince Young Ten 9
    11 Brian Griese Chi 8
    12t Kyle Boller Bal 7
    12t Trent Dilfer SF 7
    12t Brett Favre GB 7
    12t Peyton Manning Ind 7
    12t Philip Rivers SD 7
    12t Kurt Warner Ari 7
    18t Jason Campbell Was 6
    18t Trent Edwards Buf 6
    18t Josh McCown Oak 6
    18t Chad Pennington NYJ 6
    18t Tony Romo Dal 6
    I actually find this list somewhat interesting. Jay Cutler was a kid that never learned to win in college. He's having same problem putting away games in the NFL. Palmer is also a QB that simply is struggling at what I like to call "winning time." Eli MAnningup until the playoffs last year has made a career out o screwing up a game. Yet 2 guys who win more then any other ( Brady and Ben) apparently do not throw many Picks in the 2nd half of games.[/quote:38hyyslj]

    You wouldn't happen to have the % of interceptions per passing attempts in the 2nd half of games stat would you?

    Also do these numbers mean that Romo/Pennington and Ben are greater than Peyton and Carson?

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (iof games) QB rankings for Interceptins

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies
    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Smartmonies":sdmlk6hg
    NFL Leaders: Interceptions, 2nd Half OF GAMES 2007



    1 Carson Palmer Cin 11 (eh, Blame it on the Bengals defense)
    2t Jay Cutler Den 10
    2t Gus Frerotte StL 10
    2t Eli Manning NYG 10
    5t Drew Brees NO 9
    5t Marc Bulger StL 9
    5t Damon Huard KC 9
    5t Jon Kitna Det 9
    5t Sage Rosenfels Hou 9
    5t Vince Young Ten 9
    11 Brian Griese Chi 8
    12t Kyle Boller Bal 7
    12t Trent Dilfer SF 7
    12t Brett Favre GB 7
    12t Peyton Manning Ind 7
    12t Philip Rivers SD 7
    12t Kurt Warner Ari 7
    18t Jason Campbell Was 6
    18t Trent Edwards Buf 6
    18t Josh McCown Oak 6
    18t Chad Pennington NYJ 6
    18t Tony Romo Dal 6
    I actually find this list somewhat interesting. Jay Cutler was a kid that never learned to win in college. He's having same problem putting away games in the NFL. Palmer is also a QB that simply is struggling at what I like to call "winning time." Eli MAnningup until the playoffs last year has made a career out o screwing up a game. Yet 2 guys who win more then any other ( Brady and Ben) apparently do not throw many Picks in the 2nd half of games.
    You wouldn't happen to have the % of interceptions per passing attempts in the 2nd half of games stat would you?

    Also do these numbers mean that Romo/Pennington and Ben are greater than Peyton and Carson?[/quote:sdmlk6hg]

    Pennington has always been good at not throwing picks. But he didn't even play a full season last year so not sure how meaningful the stats on him are.

    Your 2nd question. I do not have that. Best thing I could give you is a ranking of QB;s passer rating in the 2nd half of games last year. The interception per throw is factored into the equation.

    2007 QB's Passer Rating in 2nd half.

    1 Tony Romo Dal 117.0
    2 David Garrard Jac 110.6
    3 Tom Brady NE 109.4
    4 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 106.6
    5 Brett Favre GB 104.9
    6 Peyton Manning Ind 99.2
    7 Kurt Warner Ari 93.2
    8 Derek Anderson Cle 91.0
    9 Donovan McNabb Phi 89.0
    10 Sage Rosenfels Hou 88.9
    11 Matt Hasselbeck Sea 88.4
    12 Drew Brees NO 86.1
    13 Jeff Garcia TB 84.5
    14 Philip Rivers SD 83.5
    15 Jon Kitna Det 82.5
    16 Jay Cutler Den 82.3
    17 Matt Schaub Hou 80.8
    18 Brian Griese Chi 79.6
    19 Damon Huard KC 77.6
    20 Cleo Lemon Mia 75.2

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    (In my best Yoda voice) One season not a career make.

    Carson had a bad season in 2007. Ben had a bad season in 2006. Lets see how both of them do this season...

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    (In my best Yoda voice) One season not a career make.

    Carson had a bad season in 2007. Ben had a bad season in 2006. Lets see how both of them do this season...
    Ben has had 3 great seasons and a bike wreck.

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies
    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    (In my best Yoda voice) One season not a career make.

    Carson had a bad season in 2007. Ben had a bad season in 2006. Lets see how both of them do this season...
    Ben has had 3 great seasons and a bike wreck.
    The Steelers had 3 great seasons. Ben had one (2007) and I don't blame you for milking it...

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies
    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    (In my best Yoda voice) One season not a career make.

    Carson had a bad season in 2007. Ben had a bad season in 2006. Lets see how both of them do this season...
    Ben has had 3 great seasons and a bike wreck.
    The Steelers had 3 great seasons. Ben had one (2007) and I don't blame you for milking it...
    Find me 3 better seasons by a rookie QB in the history of the NFL?
    Find me another QB that led his team (2nd highest road passer rating in the playoffs history) at the age of 23?

    Is about efficiency man, not fantasy football. I bet on sports for a living. If I listened To ESPN , I would be broke. 8.9 Yards per attempt. Repeat that ten times until you learn the importance if it.

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies

    Find me 3 better seasons by a rookie QB in the history of the NFL?
    Find me another QB that led his team (2nd highest road passer rating in the playoffs history) at the age of 23?

    Is about efficiency man, not fantasy football. I bet on sports for a living. If I listened To ESPN , I would be broke.
    Find me a rookie QB that walked into a team with a top 3 running game and a #1 ranked defense and I'll show you a rookie QB who has had as much success as Ben did in his first three seasons.

    If you don't throw more than 300 times in a season, it really shouldn't be considered "great". Unless your a backup QB. Which is why I stated that Ben has had 1 great season...

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies

    Find me 3 better seasons by a rookie QB in the history of the NFL?
    Find me another QB that led his team (2nd highest road passer rating in the playoffs history) at the age of 23?

    Is about efficiency man, not fantasy football. I bet on sports for a living. If I listened To ESPN , I would be broke.
    Find me a rookie QB that walked into a team with a top 3 running game and a #1 ranked defense and I'll show you a rookie QB who has had as much success as Ben did in his first three seasons.

    If you don't throw more than 300 times in a season, it really shouldn't be considered "great". Unless your a backup QB. Which is why I stated that Ben has had 1 great season...
    Steeler 2003 Ranked #32 (dead Last) in Yards Per rush

    eek 4 Oct 3 W 28-17 vs Cincinnati Bengals//pitt had lead at half
    Week 5 Oct 10 W 34-23 vs Cleveland Browns// pitt lead at half 27 1st half pts!
    Week 6 Oct 17 W 24-20 at Dallas Cowboys // roethlisberger goes 21 for 25 against Parcells
    Week 7 Bye Week
    Week 8 Oct 31 W 34-20 vs New England Patriots //Pitt had 24-10 lead at half, 17 1st half off pts
    Week 9 Nov 7 W 27-3 vs Philadelphia Eagles //pitt lead at half 21 1st half pts!
    Week 10 Nov 14 W 24-10 at Cleveland Browns // pitt lead 14-3 at half
    Week 11 Nov 21 W 19-14 at Cincinnati Bengals // one of few game , they had no lead at half
    Week 12 Nov 28 W 16-7 vs Washington Redskins // pitt leads 10-0 at half
    Week 13 Dec 5 W 17-16 at Jacksonville Jaguars //pitt leads at half- game winning drive by roeth
    Week 14 Dec 12 W 17-6 vs New York Jets // pitt small lead at half
    Week 15 Dec 18 W 33-30 at New York Giants //pitt lead at half 20 1st half points!
    Week 16 Dec 26 W 20-7 vs Baltimore Ravens //pitt lead at half

    2004 bettis

    rushing yards by QTR

    1st 165
    2nd 233
    3rd 217
    4th 326 Illustrates that the rushing yards were racked up after the pass Got them the lead. (you pass to score, you run to win, Bill Walsh 198

    2005 Parker

    1st QTR 226
    2nd QTR 236
    3rd QTR 491 once again the rushing yards were racked up in 2nd half

    2004 Roethlisberger passer rating by QTr and amount of attempts

    1st QTR 104% 76 pass attempts
    2nd qtr 97% 91 pass attempts
    3rd QTR 71% 63 pass attempts
    4th QTR 118% 65 pass attempts

    As you can see above, this ultra efficiecy in the 1st half enable the steelers to be
    able to take leads in the 1sthalf and then run the ball in the 2nd half. You can even
    see the drop in pass attempts from the first half to the 2nd half.

    Why didn't this work the year before with Maddox? well as you can se below, Maddox was unable to duplicate the ultra efficiency of Roethlisberger in the 1st QTR. Therefore Madox had to throw the ball more to make up for the incompletions. He also had to throw the bal more because roethlisberger nearly doubled up his yards per attempt avgover maddox avg in the 1st QTr. The difference between 6.5 yPa and 11.3 is an incredible difference.

    2003 maddox

    1st Qtr passer rating = 77
    completion percentage = 56%
    yards per attempt = 6.5

    2004 roethlisberger

    1st QTR passer rating = 104%
    completion percentage = 67%
    Yards per attempt = 11.3

    2004 steelers passed early and did it so efficently that they rarely had to pass in the
    2nd half. That's why they went 15-1. no other team could take a rookie QB and run the
    ball as much as Pittsburgh did, cause their has never been a rookie QB average 8.9 yards
    per attempt which is completely off the charts.

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    Re: 2007 2nd half (of games) QB rankings for Interceptions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smartmonies
    Quote Originally Posted by Jom112
    (In my best Yoda voice) One season not a career make.

    Carson had a bad season in 2007. Ben had a bad season in 2006. Lets see how both of them do this season...
    Ben has had 3 great seasons and a bike wreck.
    The Steelers had 3 great seasons. Ben had one (2007) and I don't blame you for milking it...


    When Ben was a rookie, he took over a 6-10 team after the 2nd game of the year & didn't lose until the AFC Championship Game to a team that cheated. The next year, his play in the playoffs got them to the Super Bowl which they won. How are these not great seasons?

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