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Ben is number 5 behind Brady, Manning, Palmer and Brees. I'll take Ben over Palmer and Brees anyday. How many Super Bowls did either of them win?
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Ben is number 5 behind Brady, Manning, Palmer and Brees. I'll take Ben over Palmer and Brees anyday. How many Super Bowls did either of them win?
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I'll take Ben over all of them.Originally Posted by Oviedo
"I hate him. Everybody says I'm supposed to be polite when I talk to you all, but I hate him..." "He talks too much, he doesn't make sense, he's fat, he's sloppy, he acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. He's ugly, he stinks, his mouth stinks, his breath stinks, and basically his soul stinks, too.
"Not too many people have personalities like that and survive in life. I don't know how he does it."
-Kris Jenkins on Warren Sapp
This media bias is really beginning to get on my nerves. Ben definitely IMO ranks in the top three. Palmer & Brees ahead of Ben! C'mon!
I wouldn't take anyone over Ben, but Peyton and Brady ahead of Ben is at least justifiable. Brees & especially Palmer are not.
Brady and Peyton would get killed behind our o-line. We've seen both of them light up the league when they've had time in the pocket, and get shellacked when they have pressure in their faces. If you put Ben behind an above-average o-line like Brees and Palmer have and gave him plenty of time to throw, there is no limit to what he could do.
This seems to be a common mistake people make. SB wins are team accomplishments. I have a feeling that Palmer and Brees would have very successful careers if they were QBs for the Steelers.
IMO there is Manning, Brady, and then everybody else. There can be an arguement for several QBs at the 3 spot. I do not know why people get upset about this stuff. Especially when this is all based on one's opinion.
I've been preaching this to all the Peyton lovers that I'm surrounded by. One year, Ben will have an above average line. -I hope.
This.Brady and Peyton would get killed behind our o-line. We've seen both of them light up the league when they've had time in the pocket, and get shellacked when they have pressure in their faces. If you put Ben behind an above-average o-line like Brees and Palmer have and gave him plenty of time to throw, there is no limit to what he could do.
Btw, how many playoff games have Palmer and Brees won...combined?
If you smart, all you need to do is look at yards per attempt and third down passing.
If a QB ranks near the top on those lists, he will have a ton of wins. All the other stuff like over all passing yards, is the most important among ESPN and sports writers, but its the least important among professional sports bettors and handicappers. Give me a QB with a great career yards per attempt average and poise on third down , and I got nothing to worry about going forward.
If Brees has one more down year I think you'll see him drop quickly. If Palmer misses the playoffs again, then I don't see how he could still be considered elite. Th e thing I'm confounded over with Ben's perception is how anyone can continuously overlook his efficiency, gaudy YPA & winning percentage.
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