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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    It would be hard to argue against your choices.
    I just realized...No OL from the Steelers? It was hard not to put Faneca on that list!

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    [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo
    Quote Originally Posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":35jijyiz
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    It would be hard to argue against your choices.
    I just realized...No OL from the Steelers? It was hard not to put Faneca on that list![/quote:35jijyiz]

    Not the way he played last year.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    Leigh Bodden was traded to Detroit, so he is not eligible to be mentioned among the best players in the AFC North.

    Stacy Andrews was an injury fill-in at RT last year while Eric Steinbach was a Pro Bowl alternate at guard.

    Jason Brown is projected to start at center for the Ravens, not Chris Chester.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    Leigh Bodden was traded to Detroit, so he is not eligible to be mentioned among the best players in the AFC North.

    Stacy Andrews was an injury fill-in at RT last year while Eric Steinbach was a Pro Bowl alternate at guard.

    Jason Brown is projected to start at center for the Ravens, not Chris Chester.
    I said 2007 not 2008. Based on last year not this year. Bodden was one of the top in the class...In the NFL! Who ever started C against the Steelers for the Ravens was my pick at C. I couldn't remember his name just what he did to Hampton. Chester is listed as the starter with Brown behind him on the depth chart. I assumed it was Chester. If not, I would go with Brown. I'm not a Steinback fan. Faneca was a Pro Bowler last year and he isn't on the list. Andrews was the starting LG but moved to RT when Anderson went down. Athletic enough to do so. Andrews is a stud and I would trade him for almost every player on this OL.

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    [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Quote Originally Posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":19mhufb0
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    Leigh Bodden was traded to Detroit, so he is not eligible to be mentioned among the best players in the AFC North.

    Stacy Andrews was an injury fill-in at RT last year while Eric Steinbach was a Pro Bowl alternate at guard.

    Jason Brown is projected to start at center for the Ravens, not Chris Chester.
    I said 2007 not 2008. Based on last year not this year. Bodden was one of the top in the class...In the NFL! Who ever started C against the Steelers for the Ravens was my pick at C. I couldn't remember his name just what he did to Hampton. Chester is listed as the starter with Brown behind him on the depth chart. I assumed it was Chester. If not, I would go with Brown. I'm not a Steinback fan. Faneca was a Pro Bowler last year and he isn't on the list. Andrews was the starting LG but moved to RT when Anderson went down. Athletic enough to do so. Andrews is a stud and I would trade him for almost every player on this OL.[/quote:19mhufb0]

    My bad regarding the year. However, if you are going by last year only, don't you have to put James Harrison (98 tackles, 8.5 sacks, 7 forced fumbles, 3 passes defensed, 1 interception) over Kamerion Wimbley (51 tackles, 5 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 1 passes defensed, 0 interceptions).

    Also, Mike Flynn was the starting center for the Ravens last year. He is currently an unsigned free agent on the street.

    And while I am impressed with Stacy Andrews' brother Shawn in Philly, I don't think Stacy has quite arrived yet. He may have potential, but trying to be an objective observer, I didn't like Cincy's decision to put the franchise tag on Andrews any more than I liked Pittsburgh's decision to put the transition tag on Starks.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Quote Originally Posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":33hbd6im
    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED
    Leigh Bodden was traded to Detroit, so he is not eligible to be mentioned among the best players in the AFC North.

    Stacy Andrews was an injury fill-in at RT last year while Eric Steinbach was a Pro Bowl alternate at guard.

    Jason Brown is projected to start at center for the Ravens, not Chris Chester.
    I said 2007 not 2008. Based on last year not this year. Bodden was one of the top in the class...In the NFL! Who ever started C against the Steelers for the Ravens was my pick at C. I couldn't remember his name just what he did to Hampton. Chester is listed as the starter with Brown behind him on the depth chart. I assumed it was Chester. If not, I would go with Brown. I'm not a Steinback fan. Faneca was a Pro Bowler last year and he isn't on the list. Andrews was the starting LG but moved to RT when Anderson went down. Athletic enough to do so. Andrews is a stud and I would trade him for almost every player on this OL.
    My bad regarding the year. However, if you are going by last year only, don't you have to put James Harrison (98 tackles, 8.5 sacks, 7 forced fumbles, 3 passes defensed, 1 interception) over Kamerion Wimbley (51 tackles, 5 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 1 passes defensed, 0 interceptions).

    Also, Mike Flynn was the starting center for the Ravens last year. He is currently an unsigned free agent on the street.

    And while I am impressed with Stacy Andrews' brother Shawn in Philly, I don't think Stacy has quite arrived yet. He may have potential, but trying to be an objective observer, I didn't like Cincy's decision to put the franchise tag on Andrews any more than I liked Pittsburgh's decision to put the transition tag on Starks.[/quote:33hbd6im]

    You might be 100% correct about Harrison vs WImbley. I was trying to be unbiased and look more at potential than what he actually did in 2007. The same happened with Andrews vs Faneca. I guess I should have stuck with my heart on those two. I do believe Wimbley & Andrews will be better from this point forward in their respective careers. But on 2007 merritt, you might have made your case! I think Cincy's decision to tag Andrews was the exact reason why the Steelers tagged Starks. The have an untammed "Stallion" that looks the part but just hasn't shown up yet. I think we both are hoping "The Light Goes One" for our respective players. Did Flynn start both games against the Steelers? I am going to have to see if I have any of the Ravens game still on DVR. Whomever was blocking hampton those two games made Hampton look "Washed Up" or playing injured on many plays. Maybe it was a G eating him up? Casey wasn't the same guy last year. Maybe he is getting worn down? It seems when he has a better statistical game it is because he is making tackles after being pushed back. When Casey has "0" stats it is because he is occupying 2 OL and the LBs are flowing to the ball. The regular season Jacksonville game might have worn him out! He put up big numbers but that was because they were blocking him with one OL and he was making tackles 5 yards down field. I hope the guy is fully recovered and in shape. Maybe one of these young guys can surprise and give him the breather he needs to keep him fresh for playoffs!

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    No James Harrison? :P

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    After some debate with myself and the Steeler Nation I have decided to revise my All AFC North Team. To keep to the format of 2007 performance year and not mistake picking Steelers as being Bias I will change 2!

    MY UNBIASED "2007" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - EDWARDS / BROWNS
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - FANECA
    C - CHESTER / RAVENS

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - A SMITH
    DL - HAMPTON
    LB - SILVERBACK
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - SCOTT / RAVENS
    LB - SUGGS / RAVENS
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - BODDEN / BROWNS

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED

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    The only thing consistent about Heap is that he's injured year in year out.
    ours is not to wonder why just invert and multiply...

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    MY UNBIASED "2008" ALL AFC NORTH TEAM

    QB - ROETHLISBERGER
    RB - PARKER (Rice could put up big numbers. Mendenhall would be here if he would be the starter.)
    FB - J JOHNSON / BENGALS
    WR - HOUSHMANDZADEH / BENGALS
    WR - HOLMES (Break-out Year!)
    TE - WINSLOW / BROWNS
    OT - THOMAS / BROWNS
    OT - JONES / BENGALS
    OG - GRUBBS / RAVENS
    OG - ANDREWS / BENGALS
    C - HARTWIG (Back to Titans Form!)

    DL - NGATA / RAVENS
    DL - RODGERS / BROWNS (YUK!)
    DL - WILLIAMS / BROWNS (DOUBLE YUK! I know...2 DTs but they will need to be mentioned!)
    LB - WOODLEY (Arrives In a hurry!)
    LB - LEWIS / RAVENS
    LB - RIVERS / BENGALS (He should put up monster numbers in that defense!)
    LB - WIMBLEY / BROWNS (Will benefit from Rodgers & Williams.)
    S - REED / RAVENS
    S - POLAMALU
    CB - TAYLOR
    CB - JOSEPH / BENGALS (McFadden & Simpson right behind him!)

    KR/PR - CRIBBS / BROWNS
    P - SEPULVEDA
    K - REED

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