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    Misrepresented? :) Why you gotta go there? You...

    Misrepresented? :)
    Why you gotta go there?
    You know you are talking about the guy who is THE MOST EXCITED PERSON ON THIS BOARD (Dizz) about drafting Pickett, and wanted him over Willis? :)
    Let's...
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    No, I never said that. But why do we say a...

    No, I never said that. But why do we say a relatively mobile QB like Pickett who has accuracy as his strength does not have the ceiling of an inaccurate QB that is an elite runner?

    My point is...
  3. Tomlin has more rings than ALL QB who's elite...

    Tomlin has more rings than ALL QB who's elite skill is running over passing COMBINED during the SB era.
    Because there are NONE. :)
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    Well forcing one "YOUNG" to be more of a pocket...

    Well forcing one "YOUNG" to be more of a pocket passer worked. :)
    Let me be clear, I don't think the ABILITY to run is bad. That is silly.

    Watson for example does not belong on the list. His best...
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    He also averaged 3.8 average per carry and zero...

    He also averaged 3.8 average per carry and zero rush touchdowns during the playoffs when the won the SB.
    I would suggest his 123 passer rating had more to do with his contribution to his...
  6. Again I will use this to emphasize my point. The...

    Again I will use this to emphasize my point. The 3 most successful QBs of the last 40 years are massively inferior to Willis by the "faster quicker stronger" metric. They are AVERAGE at best in arm...
  7. I did not say they were the only elite QBs. Just...

    I did not say they were the only elite QBs. Just the most successful, when it comes to championships.

    When I said "elite" it was used to describe certain traits. I did it to make clear what I was...
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    Which is why if he plays well he should...

    Which is why if he plays well he should definitely get the edge if they are even. Build that value.
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    Multiple championships? Brady Peyton Eli Ben...

    Multiple championships?
    Brady
    Peyton
    Eli
    Ben

    Even on this list it is almost like you are reading the list from the bottom up in running speed. :)

    None on the list have running for yards as...
  10. Why does Willis have a higher ceiling than Pickett?

    There is an interesting narrative about Ceiling. We always say "physically gifted" QBs have a higher ceiling.

    Willis supposedly has the lower floor, as he needs to grow as a passer. But with a...
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    Not Louisville, no. But on this forum, the...

    Not Louisville, no.

    But on this forum, the debate about Lamarr started BEFORE his draft. (I think Shawn's "LONG before was an overstatement, but his point is that criticism
    of Lamarr did indeed ...
  12. Bens best chararistic is his clutch. That drive...

    Bens best chararistic is his clutch. That drive was vintage Ben at his best.

    Aging Ben had declined physically. But he retired with the CLUTCH gift still intact. :)
  13. Ben is my favorite Steeler QB OF ALL TIME. But...

    Ben is my favorite Steeler QB OF ALL TIME.

    But people act like HE carried us to championships.

    Ben was able to win only when partnered win an ELITE defense.

    It is near impossible to...
  14. You always bring up false equivalency...

    You always bring up false equivalency comparisons.

    Nobody on this forum does not LUV Watt. Some questioned the size of his deal worried that it was too much for one defender. They are happy to be...
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    This IS correct. So what is your point of...

    This IS correct. So what is your point of bringing up that Lamar wanted to go for it? Who cares, it is on Harbaugh period.

    Who cares if he left it up to Lamar As you just said, Lamars opinion is...
  16. I think that kinda is the point. Old Ben does not...

    I think that kinda is the point. Old Ben does not fit Canada's offense. Therefore, Ben is better doing his own thing in the 4th.

    Hopefully, with players who are aquire with the right skill set, we...
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    When Ben just ignored Tomlins advice not to ride...

    When Ben just ignored Tomlins advice not to ride a death machine without a helmet....that is when I knew players had no respect for him. :)
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    That would be smart. Even better I start Mitch...

    That would be smart. Even better I start Mitch day one if the competition is even between him and Pickett.

    If BOTH look like legit starters in the league, MT might wind up with day 2 trade value.
  19. I wouldn't say THAT. Ben would have already...

    I wouldn't say THAT.
    Ben would have already been gone if Tomlin believed that.
  20. Noll won 4 SBs. NOT ONE entering a post season...

    Noll won 4 SBs. NOT ONE entering a post season without every one of TEN HOFers.

    The best Steeler defense in history, a 2 time SB winnng HOF QB, 2 HOF receivers failed to make the SB because they...
  21. Because this thread is about....Nevermind

    Because this thread is about....Nevermind
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    It would ultimately be Tomlins fault. Just as...

    It would ultimately be Tomlins fault. Just as this is unquestionably Harbaughs fault.

    Criticism would be split along the lines we see here. That means you would not even THINK of implying Ben was...
  23. I just think secondary is harder period

    I just think secondary is harder period
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    That looked like a pot stir moment designed to...

    That looked like a pot stir moment designed to wake you up. :)
  25. Back to my example. Seattle with or without...

    Back to my example.
    Seattle with or without Sherman.
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