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    You are being objective and that seems to be why...

    You are being objective and that seems to be why some have a problem on here, I just gave up arguing about it. The refs handle the balls throughout the games, they test the balls before the games and...
  2. The fumble stats do hold true , they show the...

    The fumble stats do hold true , they show the patriots didn't fumble a lot in some seasons and that's all they show. You cant say deflated balls are related to the stats because you don't know if the...
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    I agree with this, you are taking a very low risk...

    I agree with this, you are taking a very low risk signing this guy, if he doesn't work out you simply cut him.
  4. Your right I cant quantify the advantage but I...

    Your right I cant quantify the advantage but I can quantify how much stronger and faster it makes them, which creates an advantage. For example I can quantify 4.5 speed and I can quantify a 400 lb...
  5. No they really cant because all you have is...

    No they really cant because all you have is fumble statistics you do not know if the balls where deflated or to what degree, the only balls you know of that are where deflated where the balls from...
  6. The article says nothing about psi nor could it...

    The article says nothing about psi nor could it possibly know the psi of every ball the patriots have used over that amount of time, to suggest that those stats prove that is insane.
  7. I agree one falls outside the rules, never argued...

    I agree one falls outside the rules, never argued against that. The point is it doesn't give Brady an advantage over Rodgers. The only way you could make a case for it being an advantage is if you...
  8. What evidence? What evidence have you provided?...

    What evidence? What evidence have you provided? Uh PED's? You could Quantify PED advantage because you could compare a players increase in size and strength before and after use. With a football and...
  9. Well Brady has huge hands but what your saying is...

    Well Brady has huge hands but what your saying is pretty much what I have been saying that is a preference using a slightly deflated ball is not an automatic advantage for anyone who picks it up.
  10. I didn't lie I put up the post before that to...

    I didn't lie I put up the post before that to show the context that explains that it is a preference not and advantage, Brady does not get an advantage by using his preferred grip over Rodgers using...
  11. Nobody on here has shown anything that says...

    Nobody on here has shown anything that says deflating a ball 2psi gives the person using it a distinct advantage, and please tell me how someone would quantify such an advantage?
  12. This is what I said actually, "Why would...

    This is what I said actually,

    "Why would Rodgers like the ball at maximum inflation if there is such a huge advantage at 11.5 or 10.5? Its nothing more than a preference the ball will not do...
  13. NO NO NO NO I never said I believe they didn't...

    NO NO NO NO I never said I believe they didn't cheat, that is not my opinion and the only two opinions are not either you think they cheated or you don't. I have said numerous times that I don't know...
  14. Prove it, show your work please.

    Prove it, show your work please.
  15. [QUOTE=Slapstick;636581]Correct. The deflated...

    [QUOTE=Slapstick;636581]Correct. The deflated footballs provide a tremendous advantage. Nothing you have said changes that.[/QUOTE

    Prove it
  16. Again it doesn't say they didn't lose any...

    Again it doesn't say they didn't lose any pressure it says when tested" they were at the prescribed levels" We nothing about where they were before the game or at halftime just they were at legal...
  17. that's not what the nfl said though all the said...

    that's not what the nfl said though all the said was the colts balls where still legal when checked they didn't say the balls lost no pressure.
  18. Actually they don't inflate the balls, the...

    Actually they don't inflate the balls, the officials inflate the balls. As far as Nye he only says rubbing the football will not change air pressure and I agree just rubbing a ball will not, but...
  19. We don't really know if the halftime balls didn't...

    We don't really know if the halftime balls didn't lose pressure or the colts balls for that matter, footballs are permeable there will be some pressure loss I think that's unavoidable. I think the...
  20. Im sorry but what! explain where im being...

    Im sorry but what! explain where im being illiterate? 2psi out of a 15 ounce ball drops the weight 1/4 of an ounce please explain how that's wrong and how driving on deflated tires shows that is...
  21. Unreal, what an idiot.

    Unreal, what an idiot.
  22. Oh really smart guy which of the logical...

    Oh really smart guy which of the logical fallacies am I using here? It doesn't drastically change the plasticity of the ball the only way you would really notice is if someone already told you the...
  23. What! never even been to Massachusetts don't know...

    What! never even been to Massachusetts don't know anything about it, I also told you espn sports science did the same thing. The fact is 2 PSI in a 15 ounce football is a 1/4 of an ounce no matter...
  24. BULL ****!! not every credible source says that!...

    BULL ****!! not every credible source says that! That is a flat out lie, and theismans charity event was not testing if the balls would deflate he was saying he couldn't feel a difference in the...
  25. Well there is already a rule in the nfl rule book...

    Well there is already a rule in the nfl rule book with a designated penalty for this type of offense, so I don't really think its a big dilemma for goodell.
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