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but if i listen to your radio show how can i debate with you!?!
i wouldn't put ben in the hall yet. he may BECOME the greatest qb in steelers history, but he's far from it now. though, i think...

No it didn't. Marino was considered great after he threw 48 TD passes in like his 2nd season.

You can't use SB wins to judge one player from the next. Its the worst argument that anyone ever...

SMG i agree with you whole heartedly. Terry was also pretty much the O coordinator when he played for the steelers. granted he had a great team around him which helped him win those super bowls......

you CAN use super bowls as a perimeter for how good a qb is. that IS a part of the game. it's the BIGGEST part of the game. was marino a better qb then the three you mentioned? sure was. BUT...

2 time super bowl mvp
back to back

4 championships in 6 years
that is consistency that i'm looking for.

The SB wins argument doesn't fly unless your prepared to say Trent Dilfer, Doug Washington, Jeff Hostetler were all better then Dan Marino. Football is team game.
No one player can win a SB. That...

SoD the only reason i put my list up there was because i was trying to show that i DO like Ben more than Terry, i just don't think he's a better qb at this point.

i'm not saying that ben is a better qb in my list. that's just the order of players that i like. in no way do i think that ben is a better qb then terry. i'm just more exposed to ben since i...

MSM i respect your opinion but i think it's crazy that you think ben is a better qb then terry.

when ben wins 4 sb's in 6 years maybe then we can have this discussion.

btw giliam wasn't a bad...

how can something be cheating that was accepted at the time it was being done?