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    Chiefs 23 Steelers 18 Same game plan by the...

    Chiefs 23 Steelers 18 Same game plan by the Chiefs as the Jets. Steelers can only score by field goals. :) I do have a bad feeling about this game. Will need some defense and not sure the Steelers...
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    Speed is a major need for a OLB now in the...

    Speed is a major need for a OLB now in the quicker passing league for sure. I figure Shazier will be 90% a ILB to help cover fast TE's or RB's while in a base defense. But there should be MANY...
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    I must have missed any MEANINGFUL game he played...

    I must have missed any MEANINGFUL game he played in. Don't say college please. See my examples. I know the few preseason games he has played in is enough to say he is not good enough to be a 3rd QB....
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    NO WAY they use another high pick on a ILB. :)...

    NO WAY they use another high pick on a ILB. :) But I do have to ask Dub why you have are giving up on Spence (kind of a delayed rookie) and even Williams has played well as I watch from my couch. As...
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    How do you know he is not the next Brady or...

    How do you know he is not the next Brady or Rogers? :)
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    Kicking field goals will do that Flip. :)

    Kicking field goals will do that Flip. :)
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    Yea the switch to safety is easier for him then...

    Yea the switch to safety is easier for him then OLB? Both I don't see happening full time. Will he play some "OLB" of course. Just like the play in the falcons game. Over load one side or just blitz...
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    But that team had a good defense.:stirpot

    But that team had a good defense.:stirpot
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    Just looking at price yes he can walk and keep...

    Just looking at price yes he can walk and keep Moats. But a up grade is very needed and will improve the D a bunch. Just not sure who to grab in FA if Worilds wants to much $.
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    Is Mike Adams to Guard possible?

    I hate to see a 2nd rd pick struggle. I thought MA was close to equal to Gilbert at RT. With both having there own good and bad. But it looks like MA has been a down grade in both run and pass...
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    Why does anyone think MT is a defensive coach? He...

    Why does anyone think MT is a defensive coach? He was a WR when he played college ball. Started out coaching WR's the DB's. When he got his first NFL job it was to coach the DB's. 1yr as a DC got his...
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    Oh I just want to go back to the days of 8 or 10...

    Oh I just want to go back to the days of 8 or 10 sacks from each OLB. That's good.
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    Agreed because no one stands out. Maybe find a...

    Agreed because no one stands out. Maybe find a nice mismatch that way. As I think Moats was a better match up in cinci. He may end up the best of the bunch. But that may be because of being fresh...
  14. Ok coach T. Speed is all that matters! :)

    Ok coach T. Speed is all that matters! :)
  15. That is impressive. But can his tech be good...

    That is impressive. But can his tech be good enough over the long haul? Can he continue to add some strength to help as he gets older? I just worry he is a ticking time bomb. Pay him and he fails...
  16. Here is how I see it. In the past when Ben was...

    Here is how I see it. In the past when Ben was having a stinker of a game the D was good enough to keep it close so Ben could win it at the end. Now the pressure is ON Ben to be the elite QB. And...
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    Those all are so bad! Worilds? oh my the wasted...

    Those all are so bad! Worilds? oh my the wasted money.
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    It may be Ike's time to retire. But this defense...

    It may be Ike's time to retire. But this defense has been giving up huge chunks of yardage with Ike hurt on the bench. Depot tracks explosive plays and it has been terrible. As others have said...
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    LOL Now it is the D-line!:)

    LOL Now it is the D-line!:)
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    In limited playing time Moats seemed to cause...

    In limited playing time Moats seemed to cause more pressure then JJ did today or JH has the last couple games. Maybe even more then JW also. I think Moats is a keeper at least as a back up/rotation...
  21. Well I think all the Steelers will be looking for...

    Well I think all the Steelers will be looking for is a RB who can salt it away after Bell gets his. But a more of a power back like Blount did not work all the time when they NEEDED positive yards....
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    Yes and I would love to see the same break down...

    Yes and I would love to see the same break down from that article when the defense was top 10. Article from other thread here:...
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    Not sure you get that it is a WIN now BUSINESS....

    Not sure you get that it is a WIN now BUSINESS. Also cutting long time FAN favorites and player mentors such as Troy, Ike, and not bringing back Keisal, JH does not help NOW or even in the future. A...
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    Are SOME of these players even coachable? I don't...

    Are SOME of these players even coachable? I don't care what rd in the draft they were picked does not make them better then any other player for sure. Once the player hits the NFL can they improve or...
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    Oh let me try again. Just because it is you...

    Oh let me try again. Just because it is you Crash. How about the many games were Ben misses open WR's or the check down guy? Haley is responsible for the play called most of the time. But Ben has to...
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