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    Poll: We're not at this point yet: But would your...

    We're not at this point yet:

    But would your opinion change if we were eliminated from the playoffs with several games left?

    If we started playing to develop guys for next year vs. optimizing...
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    I do think the game would have been totally...

    I do think the game would have been totally different.

    I don't think Mason would have dug as big a hole.

    And I don't think Mason is capable of scoring as many points as we did in the 2nd half....
  3. I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say...

    I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here.

    Why would he say Taylor and Troy sucked? 1st, that would be incorrect. 2nd, his argument is that having good to great secondary with a good to...
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    This assumes they had a trading partner. If...

    This assumes they had a trading partner.

    If possible, I think I'm generally for trading down out of the late first. Especially with the new pay scales for the 5th year option.
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    It will go up...or down. But who cares about...

    It will go up...or down.

    But who cares about tomorrow! Care about 30 years from now. It will be up huge by then!
  6. I'm looking for a good young QB that was still on...

    I'm looking for a good young QB that was still on a cheap contract.

    I don't think it took a rocket scientist (e.g. Dobbs) to predict that Mahomes had a great chance to win a SB.
  7. I think this is kind of the genesis of our...

    I think this is kind of the genesis of our current offense.

    Didn't Switzer say something about how Ben wanted to run an offense like Brady?
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    Poll: I think both answers on the poll are reasonable....

    I think both answers on the poll are reasonable.

    I'm really hoping that we don't land in the 6 - 9 wins but don't make the playoffs bin (e.g. the Buffalo Zone).
  9. I wonder if that means that the loss of DD was...

    I wonder if that means that the loss of DD was bigger than just his play on the field (which wasn't all that great last year).

    I wonder what the off season would have looked like if that decision...
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    I think it's true that we looked better with...

    I think it's true that we looked better with Mason in those two games.

    But the playoff game was such a horror show that I think it's hard to get much more out of it than "we turned the ball over...
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    I think one thing we don't know about re Ben is...

    I think one thing we don't know about re Ben is how much of the limitations of the offense are imposed by him. Either physical limitations or strong preferences / unwillingness to do things.
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    Does M. Rudolph have to pull his sleigh into the...

    Does M. Rudolph have to pull his sleigh into the stadium every week?
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    I agree with you. He should be a 1st ballot guy...

    I agree with you. He should be a 1st ballot guy no question. Especially if they put Eli in when he's eligible. Which they might do based on big time SB wins (and not much else IMO).

    Lewis is...
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    I don't think the beat writers will throw Ben...

    I don't think the beat writers will throw Ben under the bus.

    But it's not like this explanation is outside the realm of possibility.
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    And while Haskins isn't super mobile, Mason isn't...

    And while Haskins isn't super mobile, Mason isn't mobile at all.

    And running for your life seems to be a job requirement for our QB.

    And if we're sort of trying to tank, playing the highest...
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    I agree that there doesn't seem to be much right...

    I agree that there doesn't seem to be much right with the O. Players and coaching.
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    I agree that the play call was one of the worst I...

    I agree that the play call was one of the worst I can remember.

    And that the comment was a really stupid thing to say.

    Not sure what the right answer is... Probably just some non answer coach...
  18. Maybe go and check the Bell thread if you think...

    Maybe go and check the Bell thread if you think Lemming wasn't saying big contracts for offensive skill players were mistakes?

    Or about his discussions about Gilmore for his opinion on the...
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    It was certainly not great (just like Mason isn't...

    It was certainly not great (just like Mason isn't great).

    But its not hard to do better than Ben did the next week.

    We're not in a good place for having to make a decision at QB (or OL).

    I...
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    We've never tried to draft a starting QB since...

    We've never tried to draft a starting QB since we've had Ben. That includes all of Tomlin's tenure.

    It's the same as how we didn't try to draft OL when we didn't have a need there.

    I think we...
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    Yep. Would love to know the real story behind...

    Yep.

    Would love to know the real story behind that horrible, horrible play.

    I think it's hard to buy Tomlin's story... Ben's too.
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    He's already a 1st ballot guy based on on-field...

    He's already a 1st ballot guy based on on-field success IMO.

    And if they decide to make him wait because of the rape allegations, I don't think climbing up the ranks will matter.
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    I think benching a franchise QB is a big deal. ...

    I think benching a franchise QB is a big deal.

    And they didn't do it last year when the decision was pretty important late in the season.

    I also think the experiment would be interesting.
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    Poll: This would be an amazing end to Ben's career.

    This would be an amazing end to Ben's career.
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    Poll: I picked 4 or 5 wins because I don't see how this...

    I picked 4 or 5 wins because I don't see how this team can string together 4 playoff wins.

    And the rebuild starts in earnest next year no matter what. So being a middling team doesn't really help....
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