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[QUOTE=flippy;571955]That's a little much dontcha think? If he gets 20 more years of losing, so do you and I. And I'm not cool with that :)[/QUOTE]
Nope. Because I understand when you win a lot, you draft late, when you draft late, you don't draft the top of the board talent.
Couple that with age? You are going to have down years. It's unavoidable.
People that don't appreciate Ben are the same type of morons who didn't appreciate Bradshaw......
Until he retired, and the losing mounted.
Ben will receive the same type of appreciation, when he's in Canton Ohio.
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[QUOTE=RussianCrash;571960]Nope. Because I understand when you win a lot, you draft late, when you draft late, you don't draft the top of the board talent.
Couple that with age? You are going to have down years. It's unavoidable.
People that don't appreciate Ben are the same type of morons who didn't appreciate Bradshaw......
Until he retired, and the losing mounted.
Ben will receive the same type of appreciation, when he's in Canton Ohio.[/QUOTE]
Well I want let him do his thing and win us at least 3 more SuperBowls before we go on that inevitable drought.
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But Rooney doesn't.
If Haley stays Ben will win ring #3.
Somewhere else.
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[QUOTE=RussianCrash;571965]But Rooney doesn't.
If Haley stays Ben will win ring #3.
Somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
I'd bet Haley's first mandate was to keep Ben alive.
I would do exactly what it looks like he did - take one glance at our OL, realize every nanosecond Ben had the ball behind that line was a huge risk to his entire career, and devise a system to compensate for that. Hence, "dink and dunk". Which if you think of it is a funny way to describe a system that had Ben on a record pace last year before he got injured.
Stay alive until the O-line gets fixed, then, when that happens, allow him to take 7 step drops and crank it downfield. Doesn't sound that crazy to me. Pretending he's got the SF 49s OL in front of him does.
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No, I believe Art II's mandate is to put the twice accused of sexual assault QB in his place. Make him see that he's nothing more than an employee, an underling, a servant.
He should have Ben pouring him his coffee in the morning too. Because that's what this whole situation feels like.
If Art IS holding Reno and Georgia over Ben's head years later? Then let him go now.
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[QUOTE=feltdizz;571948]yep... another petty gripe. He may have kept DJ on the field but he also put Nate, Brown, Sanders and Wallace in the best position to succeed EARLY in their careers. They loved BA and we ran him out of town for what? To win a petty war vs the OC.[/QUOTE]
Really it's a petty gripe that they put a guy who wasn't good enough to be the #3 TE on the field when he clearly shouldn't have even been allowed to put on cleats in the first place? I like putting the best guys on the field, not sticking to a system regardless of how bad your players are. DJ should NEVER be on the field let alone in a base package. How many blocks did DJ have to miss that caused fumbles or hits on the qb did he have to allow? He clearly wasn't good enough at his position, why would you make him play one that he doesn't even know? But yea, petty.
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[QUOTE=ItalianCrash;571974]No, I believe Art II's mandate is to put the twice accused of sexual assault QB in his place. Make him see that he's nothing more than an employee, an underling, a servant.
He should have Ben pouring him his coffee in the morning too. Because that's what this whole situation feels like.
If Art IS holding Reno and Georgia over Ben's head years later? Then let him go now.[/QUOTE]
Italian Crash? :)
With all this banning, Crash is becoming the UN of posters.
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I shouldn't be banned. Don't deserve to be banned. I just do it now to mock people. We have good discussion going, why ruin it? Or, you can go somewhere else, where good debate is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=GermanCrash;571980]I shouldn't be banned. Don't deserve to be banned. I just do it now to mock people. We have good discussion going, why ruin it? Or, you can go somewhere else, where good debate is appreciated.
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So, why hang around here?
Still waiting for Black Crash...
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My beef isn't with posters. I can even tolerate you Slap.