I agree Philly, but the guy hasn't ever played an NFL game. This guy was a very dangerous college passer, and did so in big games. So, until he proves to be a mental panzy, I'll give him credit of the doubt.
And John Parker Wilson holds every significant passing record in Bama school history (playing in the toughest conference in the country) and is third string on his 3rd team in 4 years. Being a big time QB at a big time school in college really means absolutely nothing. Only time will tell if he's a player or a footnote.
While I agree with your point, your use of a guy who threw many interceptions in college, has sub par arm strength, and less than optimal size for the position doesn't strengthen your point. The only knock on Jones is his pocket presence. He has the rest. Apples and oranges.
Originally Posted by Ghost
Umm...He's 6 pounds and 1 inch less than Landry (per Steelers.com). If he's not optimal size, then neither is Landry. Lets not act like a 6'2" 215 lb guy (Wilson) is a tiny midget for the position. Wilson's senior year he led Bama over Clemson, Georgia, LSU (all in the top 15) and inter-state rival Auburn. He was a big time college QB at a big time program playing the best competition in the country. Not apples to oranges at all. I'm not touting Wilson as being anything but he and Landry are most certainly comparable.
Originally Posted by Shawn
If Landry is the next Montana then why did 114 players get drafted ahead of him? Every team in the first three rounds didn't think he was worth a pick. Let's hold off on ordering his Canton bust just yet.
You focused on one point and ignored the rest. 6 foot 2 vs 6 foot 4...noodle arm vs strong arm...not to mention his lack of significant production
Originally Posted by Ghost
(Not to mention the lack of talent around Jones and the crazy talent around Wilson)
Yeah, that looks like apples and oranges to me. As for your strawman talk about Montana, just nonsense...you obviously didn't read what I wrote.
Jones played for a pass happy O. He should have had big passing numbers. They were constantly lined up in the shotgun for him to throw. And they finished in the top 16 the last 3 years (once in the top 10). To point to a lack of talent is absurd.
Discussions about Jones prior to the draft:
Disappointing junior campaign that saw him complete 63.2 percent of his passes with a 29:15 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Most importantly, he was erratic in the Sooners' biggest games and showed a propensity for turning the ball over in critical moments. Jones' stock plummeted in the minds of evaluators based on his questionable decisions.
Jones' decision-making and poise under pressure remain in question.
Average movement skills
routinely blunders under pressure; his penchant for turning the ball over in these moments is certainly a concern.
Ball placement is too erratic at each level and he tends to make highly questionable decisions every game. He stares down targets and his accuracy dips when forced to go away from his first read, showing poor footwork when rattled as he struggles to reset and step into his throws.
Landry Jones of Oklahoma has been the epitome of average during pre-draft workouts. He's tough to get a firm grasp on when trying to rank him, because one minute he looks like a first round pick and the next he almost looks undraftable.
Jones' inconsistency coupled with a limited ceiling will likely lead to fourth or fifth round selection.
Jones was more accurate, and more productive with less weapons. That Oklahoma O was devoid of talent. Teams knew Jones was passing and couldn't stop him. Anyway you want to slice that, the two didn't have even close to comparable careers.
hold the phone shawn.
oklahoma was "devoid of talent"?
Due to injuries along the offense...yes those Oklahoma teams were devoid of any real talent especially at WR.
Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti
His top 2 receivers are both in NFL camps as we speak.