they also have a superior HC
they also have a superior HC
Talent wise...Very close.
Ravens are a mentally tougher team.
Ravens are a better coached team.
That is the difference between watching the game on TV and playing in it.
The Ravens are absolutely better right now, no doubt. They are also a hot team at the moment, and while you can't quantify that, it means something.
I hate to say it, but right now, they are a more physical team than the Steelers. When they hit a rut this year, you could see that the Ravens had their flaws, but the Steelers need to improve to reach their level.
I think the only thing the Ravens were better at this year is putting it all together when it mattered most. Otherwise, we're pretty even with them.
If Ben doesn't go down with injury and our O just stays the same as they were in the 1st half of the season and the D improves like they did in the 2nd half, we could VERY EASILY have won the division over the Rats.
Sometimes things just come together and a team comes together for a special cause - like it did for us in 2005 - like it is now for the Rats. I hope the Rats story doesn't end as sweet as ours did.
This season for the Rats is very, very reminiscent of how it was for us in 2005.
[QUOTE=SidSmythe;547270]There is a fine line for this stuff in the NFL.
the Ravens were looking pretty average mid season and then started hitting stride toward the end just in time.
I think the team has stepped up at the time we stepped down.
They also overcame some big injuries and Flacco is playing well.
They're better but not by much.[/QUOTE]
There is a fine line, without question. It's all about getting hot at the right time like we did in 2005 and 2008, but we did the opposite this year, while Balt. got hot right when they needed to.
[QUOTE=BradshawsHairdresser;547272]Ravens are in the Super Bowl...Steelers are at home watching. 'Nuff said.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't the point; the point was to what degree is Balt. better. And that is relevant in determining how far we have to climb in order to beat them. MORE said.
[QUOTE=NorthCoast;547278]If you take the time to go back and look, the Ravens entire post-season came down to just a few plays during the season. If SD can figure out how to stop a RB on 4th & 29, if Dallas could figure out how to kick of field goal at the buzzer, if KC can figure out how to stop a 3rd & 15...
I know, a lot of 'ifs', but the Ravens games were very much like the Steelers... many coming down to just a few clutch plays. The more you look, the more you would agree that at clutch time THIS SEASON, Flacco>Ben.[/QUOTE]
No doubt, at clutch time Flacco >then Ben. Sad but true. Also, let us not forget what B did in the playoffs. They were heavy underdogs vs. both Denver and Pats, and won convincingly. THAT's where they were impressive. Who comes into Pats house, in the play offs, and beats Brady after being BEHIND at the half? Answer? No ONE. It's never happened. And who SHUTS out Brady in the 2nd half, at his house in the play offs? NO ONE. The fact that the Ravens accomplished that is very impressive and makes them deserving to be at the show.
[QUOTE=Steel Life;547293]Agree with the first part of your answer, not so much with the second. The bounces didn't go our way this year while they certainly did for the Ravens. As for your comparison of the QBs...I couldn't disagree more - Flacco is not better than Ben except for staying injury-free. What he is, is that he's the streakiest QB in the league as evidenced by both his good play in the post-season & the fact he was at the helm during a late-season swoon that almost had the Ravens miss the playoffs. That doesn't even take into account that Flacco put up four of the worst QB ratings this season - hardly elite, but he's in the big game & the media will be eager to crown him elite if they win. Also, don't discount the fact that Flacco benefits from having Ray Rice which forces defenses to play honest - what did the Steelers have this year in that department? Lastly, despite how the season ended, remember that Ben was being hailed as a MVP candidate whereas Flacco is second-fiddle on his own team to the aforementioned Rice.[/QUOTE]
Flacco has a QB rating of 114 in the post season and threw 8 TDs and zero pics. He is smokin'.
Ben has not been clutch since he lost the SB to GB. He wasn't clutch then and he hasn't been clutch since.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;547321]Look at it by position:
Right now I would say the Ravens are better which is why they are in the Super Bowl[/QUOTE]
No way are we even with their WRs, unless you pretend this is 2011 season instead of the 2012. Our WRs constantly sucked this year. Boldin and Smith eat our two best WRs for lunch. Wallace, of 2012, superior to those guys? Not even close. And don't be too quick to cast our TEs better than theirs. Pitta is a rising star and Dickson is better than our #2 TE.
And the level of superiority at RB can't be overlooked; not only are they better there, it's my a light year. Rice is one of the very best backs in the league and Pierce is better than ANY of our backs, period, and he is 2nd string.
[QUOTE=lloydroid;547383]No way are we even with their WRs, unless you pretend this is 2011 season instead of the 2012. Our WRs constantly sucked this year. Boldin and Smith eat our two best WRs for lunch. Wallace, of 2012, superior to those guys? Not even close. And don't be too quick to cast our TEs better than theirs. Pitta is a rising star and Dickson is better than our #2 TE.
And the level of superiority at RB can't be overlooked; not only are they better there, it's my a light year. Rice is one of the very best backs in the league and Pierce is better than ANY of our backs, period, and he is 2nd string.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree which is why I said the Ravens are better.