Overall draft position is just a rediculous argument. There are just as many stories of players failing that were selected high as there are of success stories from later in the 1st round. It's about the quality of the scouting, the environment he player walks into, and how the player responds. It's irrelevant if they are picked 11th or 25th.
Having an 8-8 season compared to a 7-9 season isn't going o reduce any more 'heat' on Tomlin, or 'Shake the organisation' any less. The Steelers missed the playoffs- that's all the 'heated shakiness' this team & coach needs.
If Ben is, indeed, a reckless fool who cares little about the final result, as you are eluding to, then a 12 win season will mean no greater significance than a 7 win season, so winning 7 or 8 games will make no difference at all to Ben- using your theory on the mentality of Ben.
Bruce Arians lost his job because he didn't get he run game going. Pretty sure the Steelers are aware of he problem. 1 win more or less won't make that point any more accurate.
Missing the playoffs with 7 or 8 wins will make no difference to a player purge you are asking for. A 2 win season- that might get you a greater purge. There will be changes, mostly based on age and salary cap, so untie the knot in your panties and enjoy the offseason of discontent.
The only thing your points prove is that you want the highest draft pick you can get, and you react to disappointment by over reacting and wanting to throw everything out, intend of trying to see what parts are not working and why. Probably we you, like the rest of us, watch the Steelers instead of making the decisions for them.
no surprise to see squid kid agrees wholehearted with you though.
That's a slippery slope you are traveling down. Where does the line end? If a team has no wins at mid-season, do they mail the rest of the season in? 4 games left? 3 games left?Quote:
Actually, the reason Herm isn't coaching in the NFL anymore is because he is a little too simplistic, as that quote confirms. Yea, you play to win the game, but sometimes losing leads to better long term futures. What if the Colts won a few more games last year? They wouldn't have Luck or RG3 and then how bright would their future look? Had they won a few more games, they would have ended up with a Matt Kalil or Justin Blackmon. How would their future look if that was the case? Horrid.
Sorry but I don't want to be a fan of a team like that. I prefer to root for a team that has integrity and respect for the game. Mailing ANY game in, is not respecting the game.
I'm aware of the rivalry. Pretty sure it'll make little difference to what the Rooney's think of the season result, however.
All that being said, this is a completely new argument to your original points.
The Browns rivalry became the Ravens rivalry. Were have you been? Also the players have to see a rivalry for there to really be one. After beating them so much there is no real rivalry for the players. I think it can again be a rivalry because of the new owner. And the Browns are getting better. But they need to whip us a few times also. I think you are stuck in the 70's and 80's.:brownssuck:moon