check the 'ben pilots gw drive' thread
I didn't read this whole thread so I am not sure how this became a Ben bashing thread. Anyway, I can handle drops. What I can't handle is a player giving up and not going out and giving 110% like we are used to seeing from former players like Hines Ward. Mike Wallace gave up yesterday. That is unacceptable. Sure Brown makes mistakes, but he also comes through many times when we need him. I have never seen him give up. I just wish he'd keep his mouth shut.
I agree with AA - Wallace doesn't have the heart of a Man of Steel. If we can get good value for him to help us in areas of greater need, I wouldn't cry to see him go.
So what is his value? If he allows Ben, Antonio, Sanders, Heath, Mendy etc to perform better because her stretches the field, if he makes the Offense better just by being there- what is his value?
If he wasn't there- is the Offense as good?
What is the success of the Offense worth?
I watch a guy like Brandon Marshall play and I think to myself.... Wallace is NOT a better WR than him.
Throw stats (look at the team and QB marshall has had) and his medical condition aside. Marshall is a beast. He's a deep threat, he can go across the middle, he can block, he's physical, etc.
I pick Marshall out because he's in that next tier of WRs along with Wallace.
So how much does Marshall make? He's making 9.5 mil this year. The Steelers offered Wallace an avg of 10mil/year and he turned it down.
IMO, our offense would be better with Marshall than it would be with Wallace. I think he's a better overall WR. I don't have a problem paying Wallace. I have a problem paying Wallace more than what he's worth. I don't see him being worth more than a guy like Brandon Marshall.
Wallace is our best receiver and DC spend more time trying to stop him then any other receiver on our team. Those are the facts.
Who cares if YOU GUYS have a problem with paying Wallace. Like you cut checks. Wallace WILL get his big contract because he has value. If he doesnt get it from us, he will get it elsewhere. Careful what you ask for.